Acropower floaters

[Waters]

So every bottle of Acropower I have used ends up becoming cloudy and filled with white floaters. Use by date is always current. Based on Google searches a response from Two Little Fishies states it is NOT normal (but very common) and due to a very concentrated formula. They say it is safe to use but will not be as strong......if you press them, they will normally replace it (again, reading past posts from people). The problem is, every bottle I get ends up like this before it is completely used. Anybody else notice this? If so, do you use it or dump it out?

 

[LeftyReefer]

I use Acropower by the bottle too, but I open a fresh bottle and dump the whole thing into my clear dosing container. I dose it daily via a doser and go through a bottle about every 2 months. It has always stayed totally crystal clear in my containers for the entire 2 months or so. How long is it before you see these floaters?

Is it possible its from the paper seal on the inside of the cap, which I guess could start breaking down after a while?

I dunno, I've never seen any floaters and I've used a bunch of it.

 

[old salt reefer]

Yep, happens in my bottles after opening and time. Pretty much use ReaSea AB+ only now.

 

[Waters]

I use Acropower by the bottle too, but I open a fresh bottle and dump the whole thing into my clear dosing container. I dose it daily via a doser and go through a bottle about every 2 months. It has always stayed totally crystal clear in my containers for the entire 2 months or so. How long is it before you see these floaters?

Is it possible its from the paper seal on the inside of the cap, which I guess could start breaking down after a while?

I dunno, I've never seen any floaters and I've used a bunch of it.

No definitely not from the cap....usually starts showing up within a couple of weeks of opening. This is a direct response from TwoLittleFishies.....

"That is a precipitate that happens sometimes because we make AcroPower at nearly the saturation point for some ingredients. So, to answer your questions, no it is not normal, but it is not rare either. It is not harmful. Yes you can decant or filter out the white precipitate and use the clear solution. The strength is reduced from a fresh bottle, but it will still work."

I seem to get it in pretty much every bottle now....maybe it has something to do with being exposed to air every time the cap is opened (since yours is dumped in a dosing container and left alone)? Strange either way.

 

[Cell]

If ingredients are precipitating out then my Acropower is not the same strength as before and I'm not really getting what I paid for.

 

[LeftyReefer]

Yep, happens in my bottles after opening and time. Pretty much use ReaSea AB+ only now.

unfortunately, no product is completely safe, AB+ included!

Several people have reported finding bits of black plastic in their bottles of AB+ too. There have been a couple threads here on R2R of it happening with pictures. It appeared to be bits of black plastic mixed in. I think someone had pictures of a destroyed bottle cap in the bottom of their bottle too, so I'm guessing the machinery that bottles the AB+ eats a bottle cap off a bottle from time to time and bits of black plastic shavings get mixed in with the product occasionally. Maybe they've cleaned up their QC measures, so maybe it doesn't happen any more.

I still use both products daily, I just take an extra peak into a new bottle now looking for anything strange. haha.
I dose Acropower, AB+, Aquavitro Fuel, and ME Polyp Extender every day.

No definitely not from the cap....usually starts showing up within a couple of weeks of opening. This is a direct response from TwoLittleFishies.....

"That is a precipitate that happens sometimes because we make AcroPower at nearly the saturation point for some ingredients. So, to answer your questions, no it is not normal, but it is not rare either. It is not harmful. Yes you can decant or filter out the white precipitate and use the clear solution. The strength is reduced from a fresh bottle, but it will still work."

I seem to get it in pretty much every bottle now....maybe it has something to do with being exposed to air every time the cap is opened (since yours is dumped in a dosing container and left alone)? Strange either way.

I'm not sure if that is it either since my dosing containers are exposed to air. In order to keep them from collapsing when the dosing pump sucks product out... I have a small vent hole drilled into the cap of each dosing container to let air in. They are not sealed. In fact, my acropower would be exposed to air more often than a bottle that is only opened once day. Mine sits in a vented container for 2 months... and no precipitate.

And it seems if it was an over-saturation problem leading to the precipitate, then just warming the bottle a little, or adding a bit or RODI (diluting it) would clear it up again.

I have no idea... if I had to have every answer in this hobby, I would have quit it long ago!

 

[Waters]

If ingredients are precipitating out then my Acropower is not the same strength as before and I'm not really getting what I paid for.

I agree.

 

[LeftyReefer]

I ordered another bottle during the Memorial Day sales this past weekend. UPS should be delivering it today.
When it shows up, I'll be sure to check the bottle for floaters/chunks. if there are any, you can be sure I'll be contacting the vendor it came from.

 

[LeftyReefer]

I noticed my new bottle that arrived today had a "best if used by" sticker on the bottom of the bottle. This bottle was dated best if used by 05/2024.

Is there a use by date on your bottles that have floaters?

 

[Waters]

I noticed my new bottle that arrived today had a "best if used by" sticker on the bottom of the bottle. This bottle was dated best if used by 05/2024.

Is there a use by date on your bottles that have floaters?

Yeah, this bottle is best if used by 10/22. Every bottle I have had issues with are all within the date on the bottom. They never start out that way.....floaters appear after bottle has been opened for a bit. This is what it looks like.....the whole top half is all floaters. This is the stuff that the company claims is not normal but not uncommon. I think I am done buying Acropower. Unfortuantely this is from a large 1000ml bottle that hasn't even been opened for that long.

 

[Williamson’s Reef]

Anyone getting cyano from acropower? I bought a gallon only to get cyano when I use it. I’ve takin it offline and the cyano clears up. Put it back online and the cyano comes back.

 

[Waters]

Anyone getting cyano from acropower? I bought a gallon only to get cyano when I use it. I’ve takin it offline and the cyano clears up. Put it back online and the cyano comes back.

Yeah, I have gotten various algae/bacteria issues when dosing heavy....I normally use half the recommended dosage now.

 

[Williamson’s Reef]

Yeah, I have gotten various algae/bacteria issues when dosing heavy....I normally use half the recommended dosage now.

I tried that also. I guess my system just doesn’t like it.

 

[LeftyReefer]

Yeah, this bottle is best if used by 10/22. Every bottle I have had issues with are all within the date on the bottom. They never start out that way.....floaters appear after bottle has been opened for a bit. This is what it looks like.....the whole top half is all floaters. This is the stuff that the company claims is not normal but not uncommon. I think I am done buying Acropower. Unfortuantely this is from a large 1000ml bottle that hasn't even been opened for that long.

If its precipitation like the manufacturer says.... then maybe there be a way to get it back into solution? Has anyone tried either diluting it a bit with RODI or maybe heating it up?? if it's the aminos precipitating out, then I'm not sure what could be done.

the bottle I took a picture of above is a new 1L bottle, which was dumped into my dosing container and it was 100% clear. I had about 200ml left of the old acropower still in the dosing container, which has bee open to the air for 2 months or so. I added the new 1L bottle so now I have about 1200ml in the container, all exposed to air constantly.

Anyone getting cyano from acropower? I bought a gallon only to get cyano when I use it. I’ve takin it offline and the cyano clears up. Put it back online and the cyano comes back.

Not cyano, (i don't think) but I will get a few filamentous strands of some type of long hair algae (diatoms maybe?) if I over do it too much with the aminos. but saying that, I dose several of them daily, at higher than recommended rates. So i cant blame it soley on the use of acropower. I have AcroPower and ME Polyp Extender dosing hourly around the clock and then do a manual dosing of AB+ mixed with AV Fuel along with a powdered coral food every evening as my lights are ramping down. When I get a few strands of that hair algae showing up I just don't dose the AB+/Fuel cocktail and the long strands of algae clear up in a day or so. The long strands sees to form on my devils hand leather first for some reason... I always figured it was some form a diatom, but I guess it could be cyano too, just not the typical matting kind.

 

[Biologic]

No definitely not from the cap....usually starts showing up within a couple of weeks of opening. This is a direct response from TwoLittleFishies.....

"That is a precipitate that happens sometimes because we make AcroPower at nearly the saturation point for some ingredients. So, to answer your questions, no it is not normal, but it is not rare either. It is not harmful. Yes you can decant or filter out the white precipitate and use the clear solution. The strength is reduced from a fresh bottle, but it will still work."

I seem to get it in pretty much every bottle now....maybe it has something to do with being exposed to air every time the cap is opened (since yours is dumped in a dosing container and left alone)? Strange either way.

I am skeptical to believe this is amino acids falling out of solution. I think it’s bacterial growth. I refrigerate mine and I noticed with in about two weeks and this occurred.

yes it’s possible for chemicals to fall out of solution in a fridge, but I’m not positive it’s not bacterial.

 

[Waters]

I am skeptical to believe this is amino acids falling out of solution. I think it’s bacterial growth. I refrigerate mine and I noticed with in about two weeks and this occurred.

yes it’s possible for chemicals to fall out of solution in a fridge, but I’m not positive it’s not bacterial.

Whatever it is, I stopped buying and using the procuct alltogether. I now use CoralAmino from Brightwell. Have not had any issues at all.

 

[Biologic]

Whatever it is, I stopped buying and using the procuct alltogether. I now use CoralAmino from Brightwell. Have not had any issues at all.

it’s an organic substance. I don’t think it’s a surprise it could grow bacteria. Especially amino acids which are the building blocks of life.

 

[LeftyReefer]

I'm still using it daily and have never ever had an issue.
My bottles are not refrigerated at all and are stored open to the air (cap loose) in my dosing containers. I've never seen anything in my bottles but clear liquid. I don't even clean my dosing container out, just keep refilling it.

I've gone through a bunch of bottles of the stuff and have never seen any floaters ever.

could refrigerating it be part of the issue? the bottles say refrigeration isn't necessary, but you say you are keeping yours in the fridge?

Just seems weird that I've never had it happen and you guys say it happens with every bottle.... so I would think maybe its a difference in how we are handling or storing our bottles maybe?

 

[Hairyteeth]

Wonder if it’s condition specific? I fill my clear dosing container, clear glass, sterilized between filling, and air tight lid…every 3 months, never anything in there for me

 

[Waters]

I'm still using it daily and have never ever had an issue.
My bottles are not refrigerated at all and are stored open to the air (cap loose) in my dosing containers. I've never seen anything in my bottles but clear liquid. I don't even clean my dosing container out, just keep refilling it.

I've gone through a bunch of bottles of the stuff and have never seen any floaters ever.

could refrigerating it be part of the issue? the bottles say refrigeration isn't necessary, but you say you are keeping yours in the fridge?

Just seems weird that I've never had it happen and you guys say it happens with every bottle.... so I would think maybe its a difference in how we are handling or storing our bottles maybe?

No, my bottles have never been refrigerated....just sits on the shelf in my basement along with everything else. Maybe it has to do with outside temps when it is delivered or where it is stored prior to being delivered to my house.