Algue with aquaforest

[kamikazereefer]

Hi guys need help
Parameter
No3 5 ppm salifert
Po4 .02 ppm URL hanna
Cal 440 salifert
Mg 1390 salifert
Kh 8.0 hanna
Pot 410 salifert

Tank is 48x24x20 100gallon
Skimmer jns co-2 rated 350g



Ok i start using aquaforest my tank is all small sps frag 1-2 inch approximately 35 ans some acan lps on bottom

I dose mg ca kh mineral salt aquaforest
Use probio salt aquaforest
I start dosing
4 month ago
Np pro 4drop everyday
Pro bio s 4 drop everyday
Pro bio f 4 scoop everyday
Amino mix 4 drop / every 2 day
Vitality 4 drop every 2 day
Build 4 drop every 2 day
Energy 4 drop every 2 day
Micro E 4 drop every 2 day

The algue start to growth heavy on my bottom glass back glass and have to clean all the other every day

I split the dose by half
Still get algue growth have to clean bottom glass and back glass every 10 day and front glass every 2 day

Im bare bottom so when the algue growth on the glass I hate it

Should I split the dose again at 1 drop ??
Or it can be something else
Flow 2 x mp 40 wd at 100% reefcrest and short pulse
Light 2 x g4 pro running ab+ schedule at 50% intensity

Thanks for the help

 

[Anirban]

Do you still use Probiotic salt? If yes then either stop using that or stop dosing amino and vitamin completely or lower you nutrient more. The probiotic salt contain amino and vitamin and if you do regular water changes then you dont need to dose the tank with more amino or vitamin. There is no need to do that. What you feed to the fish?

 

[kamikazereefer]

Do you still use Probiotic salt? If yes then either stop using that or stop dosing amino and vitamin completely or lower you nutrient more. The probiotic salt contain amino and vitamin and if you do regular water changes then you dont need to dose the tank with more amino or vitamin. There is no need to do that. What you feed to the fish?

Ok wow I did not know that ok I'll stop dosing all of these
And should i continue np pro pro bio s and f ??

I feed my fish different everyday
Some day it's frozen fish frenzy or herbivor frenzy some day brune shrimp enrich with spiruline
Some day pellet or nori some day flake . I don't over feed I got
1 yellow tang
1 Melanus wrass
1 fairy wrass
2 clown
1 six Line wrass

 

[kamikazereefer]

Do you still use Probiotic salt? If yes then either stop using that or stop dosing amino and vitamin completely or lower you nutrient more. The probiotic salt contain amino and vitamin and if you do regular water changes then you dont need to dose the tank with more amino or vitamin. There is no need to do that. What you feed to the fish?

I do 10% water change every week

 

[Anirban]

Ok wow I did not know that ok I'll stop dosing all of these
And should i continue np pro pro bio s and f ??

I feed my fish different everyday
Some day it's frozen fish frenzy or herbivor frenzy some day brune shrimp enrich with spiruline
Some day pellet or nori some day flake . I don't over feed I got
1 yellow tang
1 Melanus wrass
1 fairy wrass
2 clown
1 six Line wrass

Continue dosing NP Pro and Pro bios

 

[kamikazereefer]

Ok thanks i don't get why they are selling all these little bottle but I'll try it this way and check my sps reaction

 

[Anirban]

It depends on you how many of those you wish to use....

 

[Myka]

Amino mix 4 drop / every 2 day
Vitality 4 drop every 2 day
Build 4 drop every 2 day
Energy 4 drop every 2 day

Quit using these 4 foods. These are foods, and are designed to be used in ULNS to replenish nutrients. Your tank is not ULNS, and therefore does not need these products. If you hit a point where NO3 and PO4 are undetectable then you would start to introduce these products.

 

[Anirban]

Quit using these 4 foods. These are foods, and are designed to be used in ULNS to replenish nutrients. Your tank is not ULNS, and therefore does not need these products. If you hit a point where NO3 and PO4 are undetectable then you would start to introduce these products.

3 of them are food or nutrient source but build is not.

 

[kamikazereefer]

3 of them are food or nutrient source but build is not.

Thanks a lot guys

 

[kamikazereefer]

Quit using these 4 foods. These are foods, and are designed to be used in ULNS to replenish nutrients. Your tank is not ULNS, and therefore does not need these products. If you hit a point where NO3 and PO4 are undetectable then you would start to introduce these products.

After 2 day of no dosing
Po4 undetectable on URL hanna
No3 drop to 0.02
So I wait for no3 to be at 0 and then start dosing food slowly ?

 

[Anirban]

After 2 day of no dosing
Po4 undetectable on URL hanna
No3 drop to 0.02
So I wait for no3 to be at 0 and then start dosing food slowly ?

You can start dosing..dont let it get any lower. Dont dose the amino but dose the energy and build alternate with vitamin as per recommendation.

 

[kamikazereefer]

You can start dosing..dont let it get any lower. Dont dose the amino but dose the energy and build alternate with vitamin as per recommendation.

Ok thanks ill start this for a couple of day and I give you the result in 2-3 day

For now the algae don't really growth out in the tank it's beautiful wish it will stay like this

 

[kamikazereefer]

You can start dosing..dont let it get any lower. Dont dose the amino but dose the energy and build alternate with vitamin as per recommendation.

And can you explain me why not the amino ? And when should I start it ?
Just try to understand all the chemistry with the aquaforest process I try to read a lot but advanced reefers experience is always a better choice for me .

Thanks for your time btw

 

[Anirban]

And can you explain me why not the amino ? And when should I start it ?
Just try to understand all the chemistry with the aquaforest process I try to read a lot but advanced reefers experience is always a better choice for me .

Thanks for your time btw

Amino is too much nutrient. Currently you are sitting pretty much o nutrient aka ULNS. When you start dosing energy and vitamin you will give your system a bit of shock and if you add amino to that it can turn into too much nutrient shock which I don't want. So, slowly but steadily.

 

[kamikazereefer]

Amino is too much nutrient. Currently you are sitting pretty much o nutrient aka ULNS. When you start dosing energy and vitamin you will give your system a bit of shock and if you add amino to that it can turn into too much nutrient shock which I don't want. So, slowly but steadily.

Ok thanks

 

[Myka]

The tank is not ULNS. The water parameters alone do not define ULNS. There is heavy algae growth, so there is false low nutrient readings. I would not be dosing the foods until the algae is gone. Add clean up crew to deal with the algae. As they eat the algae they will poop those nutrients back into the water column where the skimmer can get to it.

Could you post a photo?

 

[Anirban]

Ooops, I forget about the algae. Yes, its trapping a lot of nutrient so actually its not ULNS. Possibly its best to clean it up before you feed.

 

[kamikazereefer]

Ooops, I forget about the algae. Yes, its trapping a lot of nutrient so actually its not ULNS. Possibly its best to clean it up before you feed.

I will post picture tonight and add clean up crew to help clean it out
I don't have a massive algae growth it's small algae growing on the bottom glass I got none on the rock at all and I keep my other glass very clean
The light is close for now but after work I send you a picture

 

[kamikazereefer]

The tank is not ULNS. The water parameters alone do not define ULNS. There is heavy algae growth, so there is false low nutrient readings. I would not be dosing the foods until the algae is gone. Add clean up crew to deal with the algae. As they eat the algae they will poop those nutrients back into the water column where the skimmer can get to it.

Could you post a photo?

Will do it tonight how many should I add I got 100gallon
15 hermit
10 snail
1 urchin
Thats my population for now .