Dino ID (Microscope pic)

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Hi guys, looking for an ID on this dino plague. Appears to be benthic and grows on top of macro. Mostly static but some cells look to be rotating in place. I'm thinking closest is Prorocentrum ?

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Hi guys, looking for an ID on this dino plague. Appears to be benthic and grows on top of macro. Mostly static but some cells look to be rotating in place.

This looks like a very unusual shaped amphidinium.
Any chance of a video? Tank pics of affected areas?
 
This looks like a very unusual shaped amphidinium.
Any chance of a video? Tank pics of affected areas?

Sure, here is a video:


It's only the beginning stages so no substantially affected areas for a photo (yet). Trying to catch it early this time. My tank is a reboot from a 3yr Ostreopsis fight (which i won in the end visually but not under the microscope as that was the only cell i could see on each sample so decided to scrub tank clean and get new dry rock/sand). Took all the precautions to not get dinos this time - added IPSF sand+micro fauna packages, algaebarn pods+phyto and macro, never got below 0.03ppm PO4 and 10ppm NO3 with daily testing, and of course, Murphy's law, got a different kind of dino...
 
Great microscope shots of this Round cell amphidinium. I'm going to look and read a bit more, but here's what I can figure.
It is epiphytic on algae, and has very low movement. It is likely toxic (all other problem dinos we have that are algal epiphytes are toxic).
Based on those traits, I would treat it like prorocentrum, your original hunch.
As for what it actually is, actual species ID is impossible, but to see a similar one, look up Amphidinium massartii.
It matches the description and also has toxins. Most all our problem dinos do, under certain circumstances.
 
Thanks taricha! Looks like I have some reading to do.
Yeah it started on my hypnea pannosa macro couple weeks ago, intermixed with diatoms, and then transferred over to the sandbed. Can’t see any on rocks yet. Ulva and red gracilaria in fuge are unaffected for now too. Ceriths eat it somewhat probably due to the diatoms but I can see they are not jumping from joy
I will try to take some photos of the macro tonight, for the archive, and a video of the dino there too
 

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