Ph always low.

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Ph has been always low. Below 7.8 for almost 2 months. All corals are fine but i dont see much growth. Have been doing almost weekly 20 g water changes. I have a co2 scrubber and a refugium with a big chunk of chaeto.

Tank is a 55 gallon tank with a 20 gallon sump.

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I just dosed ph buffer to bring ph up but it keeps on dropping to 7.5-7.7
 
pH in indoor reef tanks is mostly a function of ambient CO2 levels and Alkalinity. The easiest way to raise pH is to introduce more outside air into the room housing your tank by ventilation. Another good option is to run an outside air line into your skimmer (if you run one). Beyond that you are into CO2 scrubber territory.

I use an outside skimmer line in one of my tanks as it is in an area where we eat when we have folk over and pH can drop quite quickly when we are entertaining. This line helps moderate the impact of this. In my other, larger tank I don’t bother as it’s in a much bigger room that is well ventilated and won’t have this issue.

If you are in an environment where your tank room(s) don’t get much ventilation, and you can’t improve that easily (e.g. low temperature and heating) then I would start with an outside air line to your skimmer and if that doesn’t do enough consider a CO2 scrubber. pH of 7.8 isn’t really that low however so I would first determine if it was really causing a problem or not. Personally I do like keeping it closer to 8 and above, but I don’t think 7.8 is too much to worry about. Hopefully others with more experience will give you their insights.
 
pH in indoor reef tanks is mostly a function of ambient CO2 levels and Alkalinity. The easiest way to raise pH is to introduce more outside air into the room housing your tank by ventilation. Another good option is to run an outside air line into your skimmer (if you run one). Beyond that you are into CO2 scrubber territory.

I use an outside skimmer line in one of my tanks as it is in an area where we eat when we have folk over and pH can drop quite quickly when we are entertaining. This line helps moderate the impact of this. In my other, larger tank I don’t bother as it’s in a much bigger room that is well ventilated and won’t have this issue.

If you are in an environment where your tank room(s) don’t get much ventilation, and you can’t improve that easily (e.g. low temperature and heating) then I would start with an outside air line to your skimmer and if that doesn’t do enough consider a CO2 scrubber. pH of 7.8 isn’t really that low however so I would first determine if it was really causing a problem or not. Personally I do like keeping it closer to 8 and above, but I don’t think 7.8 is too much to worry about. Hopefully others with more experience will give you their insights.


Tank actually has good ventilation as it is next to a window that is partially open to let fresh air in plus i do have a co2 scrubber on my system.
 
C02 problem. I run a BRS dual jumb co2 scrubber. It hasn't made a big difference, but it keeps it stable. Went from 77.5 to 8 if this helps
 
Most pH buffers increase alk too and only work temperately so you wouldn't want to use those if you don't want to bring alk up with it.
Was just going to post this when I read you added PH buffer. Someone beat me to it.

Honestly, I would be suspect of the apex probe. When was the last time you calibrated it?
 
Tank actually has good ventilation as it is next to a window that is partially open to let fresh air in plus i do have a co2 scrubber on my system.

Partially open may not do much if your house is full of air with high CO2. You would need pretty significant air exchange to reduce the CO2 in your house, especially if the CO2 is very high.

To rule out measurement error, take a cup of tank water outside and aerate it for about 10 minutes. Then, measure the pH of the water in the cup. If the pH is not around 8.1- 8.2, there's something wrong with your pH probe or the calibration. If the pH is around 8.1 - 8.2, the house has more CO2 than you're remediating with the open window and CO2 scrubber.
 
Just throwing out a couple if ideas. Is the co2 scrubber media tightly packed? if not it might not be filtering out all the co2. Next thing how much "Other gas exchange is taking place in the tank ie: wet dry filter, surface agitation or similar things. you might be adding co2 at the same time your trying to remove it.
 
There's only 3 variables here:

Alkalinity
CO2 concentration
pH Measurement

Your alk is high (assuming correct measurement) - so its not that.

So its either high CO2, or your probe needs to be recalibrated.
 

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