plumbing question

Jaylivi1212 · Oct 9, 2017

Infact is a durso

Idoc · Oct 9, 2017

Take a look at my build thread... there's a section where i layout my plumbing... actually draw it out on paper showing exactly which parts i used...it might help you visualize what you need to do. I recommend drawing it out...

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/idocs-first-reef-tank-build-75g.317135/

Jaylivi1212 · Oct 9, 2017

Very dirty

Idoc · Oct 9, 2017

Gotta clean out that overflow... no sand can be under the rubber bulkhead gasket!

Jaylivi1212 · Oct 9, 2017

Idoc said:
Gotta clean out that overflow... no sand can be under the rubber bulkhead gasket!

I sorta figured it was dirty back there! But I also forgot the sizes of my pvc pipe to buy Connections for

Idoc · Oct 9, 2017

If you want a reallt quiet system, think about converting it to a Herbie system... That's what i did. Its dead quiet. Plus, gives that extra piece of mind by having an emergency overflow if ever needed, lol. I had a similar setup in my overflow as yours. Turned one drain into the full siphon line and the other into the emergency drain. Then, ran a return over the rim of my tank.

Like another poster mentioned, flex tubing is easier, but won't work for the full siphon line on a herbie system. That line needs to be hard plumbed due to the fact you need a gate valve to set the flow! If you go this route, don't use a cheap ball valve from HD...get a nice Spears gate valve from BRS... you'll be glad you paid the extra for that one!

Jaylivi1212 · Oct 9, 2017

Idoc said:
If you want a reallt quiet system, think about converting it to a Herbie system... That's what i did. Its dead quiet. Plus, gives that extra piece of mind by having an emergency overflow if ever needed, lol. I had a similar setup in my overflow as yours. Turned one drain into the full siphon line and the other into the emergency drain. Then, ran a return over the rim of my tank.

Like another poster mentioned, flex tubing is easier, but won't work for the full siphon line on a herbie system. That line needs to be hard plumbed due to the fact you need a gate valve to set the flow! If you go this route, don't use a cheap ball valve from HD...get a nice Spears gate valve from BRS... you'll be glad you paid the extra for that one!

It isn’t really loud. I’d keep the durso for now due to the amount of time it would possibly take and I’m trying to clean the overflow and then plumb it hopefully today

recess62 · Oct 9, 2017

Idoc said:
If you want a reallt quiet system, think about converting it to a Herbie system... That's what i did. Its dead quiet. Plus, gives that extra piece of mind by having an emergency overflow if ever needed, lol. I had a similar setup in my overflow as yours. Turned one drain into the full siphon line and the other into the emergency drain. Then, ran a return over the rim of my tank.

Like another poster mentioned, flex tubing is easier, but won't work for the full siphon line on a herbie system. That line needs to be hard plumbed due to the fact you need a gate valve to set the flow! If you go this route, don't use a cheap ball valve from HD...get a nice Spears gate valve from BRS... you'll be glad you paid the extra for that one!

I was just gonna write the same thing. This is a great suggestion. You can do it in stages.

Jaylivi1212 · Oct 9, 2017

Better

theMeat · Oct 9, 2017

Idoc said:
If you want a reallt quiet system, think about converting it to a Herbie system... That's what i did. Its dead quiet.

Like another poster mentioned, flex tubing is easier, but won't work for the full siphon line on a herbie system. That line needs to be hard plumbed due to the fact you need a gate valve to set the flow! If you go this route, don't use a cheap ball valve from HD...get a nice Spears gate valve from BRS... you'll be glad you paid the extra for that one!

good thinking. Better to drill another bulkhead in there so you don't have the return going over rim of tank. Gate valve instead of ball valve is another good idea, but not completely necessary, and ball valves can be bought readily at home center. You also don't have to hard plump the valve. Just glue in a nipple to both sides of valve and attach flex hose to both sides. Or hard plumb valve onto on side, from bulkhead, or on top of sump, and connect flex hose to that.
Also. Stockman standpipe, or Hofer gurgle buster are better single drain choices than Durso, IMO

Jaylivi1212 · Oct 9, 2017

May sound like a very dumb question at this point but when connecting the pvc to the bulkhead where the hose(s) used to be. Would i have to remove anything or buy anything to add the elbos and pipes?

theMeat · Oct 9, 2017

Jaylivi1212 said:
May sound like a very dumb question at this point but when connecting the pvc to the bulkhead where the hose(s) used to be. Would i have to remove anything or buy anything to add the elbos and pipes?

Prime and glue both bulkhead, and 1" pvc pipe to start your connections

Jaylivi1212 · Oct 9, 2017

theMeat said:
Prime and glue both bulkhead, and 1" pvc pipe to start your connections

Would I glue the bulkhead to the tank or what. Sorry really confused rn. Also how about the return

Jaylivi1212 · Oct 9, 2017

Tried getting this off and the screw broke

theMeat · Oct 9, 2017

Bulkhead to tank gets no glue. Rubber washer goes inside tank, nut on outside gets hand tight, then 1/8 turn with wrench. Do not over tighten.
Prime, let dry, then glue pipe and bulkhead on bottom where pipe slides into bulkhead, using pvc primer and glue/cement.
Get a pair of pliers and wiggle clamp where screw is to break it open. Maybe get a screwdriver under clamp to help it along. Not too much, don't want to break pump outlet. Could use a hack saw or grinder too. Not a good idea to put a clamp in water. Just fit tubing making sure it's the right size to fit nice and snug, then cable tie wrap if you want.