Proper temp and stability?

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It's been about 5 years since I've been in this, but I recall 76* and a 3* swing as my old params. Does this sound about right?

As my tank is that I'm setting up NOW, its running about 78-79 with a 4-5* (82-83* at lights off) upswing by the end of the day with the halides on. (2 150W 5" above the surface over a 29G tank). I moved a pump to circulate the water pretty heavily that's up there to help, but it's not been enough. I HAVE to run heaters at night, but then the halides add too much heat to the system by the end of the light cycle...

Input needed ASAP, as cycle is completing and I was hoping to add a few coral pieces starting next week. First I have to get this temp under control, lol.
 
I like to keep mine below 80 preferably 77-78 I would think 83 would be pushing it. I would try raising the light a bit and see if that helps. I run led so I don't usually have any heat issues.
 
This is going to sound ghetto.On really hot days I put a adjustable tabletop fan in front of my metal halide.Not pretty,but it keeps the tank cooler.
 
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Actually I've heard that about a fan on the edge of the tank. I may have to try that.. raising isn't an option for me. Pretty sure wife would kill me if I drilled holes in the ceiling. The tank is pushing it enough, LOL.

Most of the fish I want to keep are in the 72-78 range recommendation, so I should target somewhere in there it looks like. I could just about get away with no heaters at that point, as our house is usually 72 winter and summer... occasionally 64-68 on COLD COLD or high energy demand nights (our electric company requests it occasionally (1x in 4 years) to keep from having demand overload brown-outs/blackouts). So I think I will at least keep ONE of my small heaters there just in case.

Is there a certain recommended swing temp that is considered "too much"? If so I may end up having to swap out my halides for my T5 fixture :(.. bummer because I LOVE the shimmer and spectrum of halides.. then again, I could probably trade the T5's and halides for a killer LED setup....
 
It sounds like you are trying to keep fish that are not really from the main coral regions of the South pacific, if 72-78° F is really optimal for them (not sure I'd believe such info from vendors, however).

That said, this is my take on temperature and the temp swing for reefs in general:

https://www.reef2reef.com/forums/re...-coral-reef-aquarium-randy-holmes-farley.html

from it:

Temperature

Temperature impacts reef aquarium inhabitants in a variety of ways. First and foremost, the animals' metabolic rates rise as temperature rises. They may consequently use or produce more oxygen, carbon dioxide, nutrients, calcium, and alkalinity at higher temperatures. This higher metabolic rate can also increase both their growth rate and waste production at higher temperatures.

Another important impact of temperature is on the chemical aspects of the aquarium. The solubility of dissolved gases such as oxygen and carbon dioxide, for example, change with temperature. Oxygen, in particular, can be a concern because it is less soluble at higher temperature.

So what does this imply for aquarists?

In most instances, trying to match the natural environment in a reef aquarium is a worthy goal. Temperature may, however, be a parameter that requires accounting for the practical considerations of a small closed system that might suffer a power failure and trap the organisms in a small amount of poorly aerated water, something that rarely happens on a natural reef. Looking to the ocean as a guide for setting temperatures in reef aquaria may also present complications because corals grow well in such a wide range of temperatures. The greatest variety of corals, however, are found in water whose average temperature is about 83-86° F.
During normal functioning of a reef aquarium, the oxygen level and the metabolic rate of the aquarium inhabitants are not often important issues, and many reef tanks do well with temperatures in the low to mid 80's. During a crisis such as a power failure, however, the dissolved oxygen can be rapidly used up. Lower temperatures not only allow a higher oxygen level before an emergency, but will also slow the consumption of that oxygen by slowing the metabolism of the aquarium's inhabitants. The production of ammonia as organisms begin to die may also be slower at lower temperatures. For reasons such as this, one may choose to strike a practical balance between temperatures that are too high (even if corals normally thrive in the ocean at those temperatures), and those that are too low.

These natural guidelines leave a fairly wide range of acceptable temperatures. I keep my aquarium at about 80-81° F year-round. I am actually more inclined to keep the aquarium cooler in the summer, when a power failure would most likely warm the aquarium, and higher in winter, when a power failure would most likely cool it. All things considered, I recommend temperatures in the range of 76-83° F unless there is a very clear reason to keep it outside that range.

One additional comment on temperatures: having a small temperature swing is not necessarily undesirable. While temperature stability may sound like a desirable attribute, and in some cases it may be, studies have shown that organisms that are acclimated to daily temperature swings become more able to deal with unexpected temperature excursions. So while a tank creature that normally experiences only 80° F may be very healthy, the same organism adapted to a range from 78° F to 82° F may be better able to deal with an aquarium that accidentally rises to 86° F
 
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Thanks Randy!
Delving in further to the fish from sources on those fish vs vendor's proves you correct. More in the range of 75-80 depending on source.
So a 5* swing isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as the fish aren't being cooked quickly? LOL. I've done a SLIGHT adjustment to drop the starting temp to 77*, we'll see what that upswing is tomorrow :).

On a side note, my algae bloom and diatom blooms of the first phase of the cycle are gone. On to the next param! :D (Had to do lights out for 2 days to calm down the film algae I had for a week -.-)
 

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