Tank Transfer Method

JumboShrimp · Feb 22, 2021

Well, maybe I was confusing it with the concern some have over aerosolized droplets transfering Ich from the clean tank to the dirty tank. But if one is bad, the other would have to be too, no? (Not trying to be argumentative with anyone with better knowledge than me, mind you.)

MnFish1 · Feb 22, 2021

JumboShrimp said:
I believe you are totally correct about how to handle a Puffer @MnFish1. (I once owned two small Valentini.) But since with the TTM you are trying to move the fish, and fish only (no water— not even droplets) from one tank to another, isn’t that where the problem comes in with trying to move a submersed Puffer?

OH - good point. If I 'had' to do it. I would empty as much water out - or do the following - Remove the fish from the tank in a container. Empty as much water out as possible - then replace it (choose your method) - such that you can dilute the water in teh container significantly - such that there is very little likelihood that any CI is being carried into the TTM tank. .

PS - Its my understanding that TTM is not trying to avoid having free swimming CI from getting into the tank - but rather preventing the attached (to the glass/container) CI from hatching and reinfecting the fish. I'm not sure that not 'even a drop' of water can get into the tank.

KeefsReef · Feb 22, 2021

MnFish1 said:
OH - good point. If I 'had' to do it. I would empty as much water out - or do the following - Remove the fish from the tank in a container. Empty as much water out as possible - then replace it (choose your method) - such that you can dilute the water in teh container significantly - such that there is very little likelihood that any CI is being carried into the TTM tank. .

PS - Its my understanding that TTM is not trying to avoid having free swimming CI from getting into the tank - but rather preventing the attached (to the glass/container) CI from hatching and reinfecting the fish. I'm not sure that not 'even a drop' of water can get into the tank.

Thank you!

Reef Box · Apr 10, 2021

@Humblefish any thoughts on using something like Chloroquine phosphate at therapeutic levels in each tank as a second layer of insurance or would that be a waste

Turbo's Aquatics · Apr 12, 2021

He's not on R2R anymore

Dolphins18 · May 27, 2021

Can this be used to treat multiple fish in the same tank assuming they are all added and placed into the next tank at the same time?
Any answer is appreciated if those have experience!
Thanks
I have velvet in my tank and some species can not survive copper or CP.

RobB'z Reef · May 27, 2021

Absolutely, no sound reasons you can't do that assuming you have enough room for them all and aggression levels are in check.

MnFish1 · May 27, 2021

Dolphins18 said:
Can this be used to treat multiple fish in the same tank assuming they are all added and placed into the next tank at the same time?
Any answer is appreciated if those have experience!
Thanks
I have velvet in my tank and some species can not survive copper or CP.

I believe it could, depending on the size of the fish, and the size of the TTM tank you're trying to use.

JumboShrimp · May 27, 2021

“Yes.” Watch (Potentially) for quicker ammonia rise, the more fish you have.

rebels23 · May 28, 2021

Dolphins18 said:
Can this be used to treat multiple fish in the same tank assuming they are all added and placed into the next tank at the same time?
Any answer is appreciated if those have experience!
Thanks
I have velvet in my tank and some species can not survive copper or CP.

Yes, I have done it many times. Add at same time, transfer at same time. Also note, TTM schedule for velvet is slightly different than ich

Biff0rz · Feb 2, 2022

So I goofed up today. Today was transfer 4 during 36 hour periods - I went past it by 1h20m. Do I have to restart from the beginning or can I just re-do another 36h period? I'd really hate to reset, ugh. I was intending to do the velvet+ich method. The fish is showing no signs of anything fwiw.

albano · Feb 2, 2022

I’d add an extra 36h, if that’s what you do… but I thought the recommendation was transfer every 72h?

Arabyps · Feb 2, 2022

albano said:
I’d add an extra 36h, if that’s what you do… but I thought the recommendation was transfer every 72h?

There are 2 methods. The 72 hour method is in my mind preferred.

Hybrid TTM to treat all parasites!

Important: Tank Transfer Method is most effective when water temperature and salinity are kept within this range... Temp: 24C/76F - 28C/82F Salinity: 27ppt / 1.020 SG - 35ppt / 1.026 SG Tank Transfer Method is an effective (non-chemical) treatment for Marine Ich. However, it's weakness has...

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JGT · Feb 2, 2022

Biff0rz said:
So I goofed up today. Today was transfer 4 during 36 hour periods - I went past it by 1h20m. Do I have to restart from the beginning or can I just re-do another 36h period? I'd really hate to reset, ugh. I was intending to do the velvet+ich method. The fish is showing no signs of anything fwiw.

Just do another 36/72 hour period. I then like to observe for a week to be sure nothing snuck through.

lapin · Feb 2, 2022

last page for all versions

Tank Transfer Method (all versions)

The table and video below are meant to show/explain the differences between the 3 different versions of Tank Transfer Method. If you are completely unfamiliar with TTM, please read more detailed information found in the links below: Standard TTM Velvet TTM Hybrid TTM How to perform a H2O2...

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JGT · Feb 2, 2022

I actually do Hybrid +. Throw in doses of GC on non peroxide days 6 days apart.

MnFish1 · Feb 2, 2022

lapin said:
last page for all versions

Tank Transfer Method (all versions)

The table and video below are meant to show/explain the differences between the 3 different versions of Tank Transfer Method. If you are completely unfamiliar with TTM, please read more detailed information found in the links below: Standard TTM Velvet TTM Hybrid TTM How to perform a H2O2...

humble.fish

No offense to Humblefish the protocol is contradictory. I think I know what he means - but saying day 1, day 2, etc suggests doing something on each of those days, when in fact, the changes are done at 1.5 day - or 3 day intervals. So - it is confusing

JGT · Feb 2, 2022

MnFish1 said:
No offense to Humblefish the protocol is contradictory. I think I know what he means - but saying day 1, day 2, etc suggests doing something on each of those days, when in fact, the changes are done at 1.5 day - or 3 day intervals. So - it is confusing

Agreed. I built a spreadsheet with some macros that calculates everything down to the hour. All I need to do is put in the date and time I start and it figures out the rest. Did both a Purchase fish online version as well as a Purchase fish from LFS version.

lapin · Feb 2, 2022

I do it every 36 hours. 14 days. Prazzi day 7 and 14. Dont like getting up at the off hour changes but what ya gonna do *-*

elchopo · Feb 15, 2022

I have a longnose butterfly that looks like has ich. But he also has some pimple looking spots on his side. Opinion seems to be an issue with copper. I only got him a few days ago and he is a joy! He perks up when food is presented but I have not witness him eating.

I did a freshwater dip and that's when the ich became apparent. I was wondering if TTM would work to cure the ich and in every other transfer I can medicate the pimple spots with Kanaplex or Metro? I am worried about treating him with copper if that is the general consensus of the pimple spots. But I also know I cant mix metro or kanaplex with copper so I wouldnt be able to treat it anyways.