Tank Transfer Method

[DannyB]

So the next 2 fish I am planning on getting are a mandarin and a Carpenter's Wrasse, not at the same time.

If I do TTM:
Is there anything special i should do for these 2 fish?
Should I treat prophylactically?
Anything special i should feed them, especially the mandarin?
Anything special i should know at all?
If i use buckets for ttm should i use a tank after the 12 days?
Should i just use tanks the entire time?
If I use 10g tanks, would they need to be full for the transfers, or just for the remainder of the QT process?

Sorry for all the questions.

Bump on these other questions

 

[Greenstreet.1]

Just got this back from nutramar this morning.

Thank you for your interest.
Unfortunately we have not been able to harvest Ova. We are going to try
again in 3-4 months.
Please check back.

 

[Jlobes]

If you give the Rod's a try please let us know how it goes, as Rod's is readily available.

what do you mean...give it a shot!? I already use the rods foods(the OG, coral blend, plankton and eggs), and it is BY FAR my favorite food. I wont be QTing a mandarin any time soon, the rods eggs, was merely a suggestion for you to use instead of the ova

 

[Jlobes]

Just got this back from nutramar this morning.

Thank you for your interest.
Unfortunately we have not been able to harvest Ova. We are going to try
again in 3-4 months.
Please check back.

sounds like ova is going the way of cyclopeeze

 

[DannyB]

what do you mean...give it a shot!? I already use the rods foods(the OG, coral blend, plankton and eggs), and it is BY FAR my favorite food. I wont be QTing a mandarin any time soon, the rods eggs, was merely a suggestion for you to use instead of the ova

Sorry, i meant if you try giving it to a mandarin.

 

[Jlobes]

Sorry, i meant if you try giving it to a mandarin.

yeah, thats not happening. but you should give it a shot, with the mandarin you have coming.

 

[DannyB]

With this method, after you complete the final transfer and have the fish in qt for observation, can you have more than one qt tank near each other or is there still a risk of some disease transferring from one tank to the other?

 

[Humblefish]

With this method, after you complete the final transfer and have the fish in qt for observation, can you have more than one qt tank near each other or is there still a risk of some disease transferring from one tank to the other?

You always wanna observe the 10 foot rule: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/aerosol-transmission.190292/

 

[DannyB]

You always wanna observe the 10 foot rule: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/aerosol-transmission.190292/

I appreciate it. I wasn't sure it this was an Ich thing or a disease thing. Thank you for clearing it up for me.
On another note, I will be making my first attempt at TTM next week. I had thought about getting 2 different fish at the same time but do not want to house them together and was going to set up 2 seperate QTs but i don't have the room for 2 QTs and my remote sump to all be 10ft apart from one another. Hopefully all goes well and I will post here how it goes.

 

[DannyB]

One other question: On hand, I have an ammonia reducer and I have Prazipro as far as treatment. Would you recommend if any other treatment like products I should have on hand for incase something goes wrong?

 

[melypr1985]

One other question: On hand, I have an ammonia reducer and I have Prazipro as far as treatment. Would you recommend if any other treatment like products I should have on hand for incase something goes wrong?

I'd suggest for your medicine cabinet.... Kanaplex in case you run into an infection and copper or CP in case you incounter velvet. Not saying you'll need them, but it's good to have on hand just in case.

 

[Humblefish]

I'd suggest for your medicine cabinet.... Kanaplex in case you run into an infection and copper or CP in case you incounter velvet. Not saying you'll need them, but it's good to have on hand just in case.

+1 At the bottom of this thread you'll see what I consider to be the "bare essentials" for any fish medicine cabinet: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/medications-to-keep-on-hand.213574/

 

[twreefer]

Thanks again for your help HF. Update on my TTM... My two surviving fish (blue hippo and ocellaris) are looking stellar after sitting for 4 weeks in Tank 5. I have settled on the fact that the issue was ich and TTM worked great and got them clean. The blue hippo showed definite signs (I would guess two dozen noticeable spots easy), and they are all gone. They will stay in this final QT tank for about 5 more weeks and then back to the DT!

Meanwhile, while my DT has been fallow, it has experienced a pod explosion. This has got me thinking about adding a mandarin when the DT is ready, so I've been very interested in the recent discussion on mandarin foods. Being my first, I was curious how to adequately feed it when it first arrives and goes into my bare bottom pod-less QT. Do I find a way to get some pods in there, like move some of my live rock? I worry if that would get enough pods over. Or do I cross fingers and do safety stop and put right into the pod-heavy DT?

 

[Humblefish]

Being my first, I was curious how to adequately feed it when it first arrives and goes into my bare bottom pod-less QT. Do I find a way to get some pods in there, like move some of my live rock? I worry if that would get enough pods over. Or do I cross fingers and do safety stop and put right into the pod-heavy DT?

Your best bet is to buy an ORA mandarin already eating frozen and/or pellets. LFSs can get them or you may be able to order one online. A LFS I advise gets them in all the time. Run it thru TTM before placing in your DT.

 

[s2nhle]

Great thread, Thank you for sharing.

 

[Humblefish]

Wanted to include some info regarding disinfection, since that is pivotal to the success of TTM. The below quote and table was taken from this source: https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa164

Disinfection
A number of methods for disinfection of Cryptocaryon tomonts and theronts have been examined (Hirazawa et al. 2003). The following regimens were shown to be effective against tomonts in the laboratory: 1 hour exposure to 40°C (104°F) or to 100 mg/L benzalkonium chloride; 24 hours exposure to 60 mg/L chlorine or to drying. Free-swimming theronts were killed more easily after one of the following treatments: 1 hour exposure to 2.4 mg/L chlorine; 1 hour exposure to 100 mg/L benzalkonium chloride; or 40°C (104°F).

(See Table 2. Methods for disinfection of Cryptocaryon irritans life stages)

 

[drstratton]

I use the drying method. I have two 10g tanks and now another 5.5g for TTM and equipment for each. As soon as I finish the transfer, I wash everything in hot water and let it dry, by the time I'm ready for the next transfer, everything is ready to go. I love TTM, now that I have it all figured out and have the routine down. I'm on my third set of fish and everything is going so much smoother now, compared to my first effort! I know that I've said it before, but thank you again for all of the awesome knowledge that you've shared and continue to share!

 

[Humblefish]

I use the drying method. I have two 10g tanks and now another 5.5g for TTM and equipment for each. As soon as I finish the transfer, I wash everything in hot water and let it dry, by the time I'm ready for the next transfer, everything is ready to go. I love TTM, now that I have it all figured out and have the routine down. I'm on my third set of fish and everything is going so much smoother now, compared to my first effort! I know that I've said it before, but thank you again for all of the awesome knowledge that you've shared and continue to share!

Glad to hear! Everything in this hobby (including QT) takes time & patience to get it down right. But the more you do something, the more comfortable you become with it, the more successful you will be at it.

 

[s2nhle]

I am also using the dry method. Rinse well after use and let it dry.

 

[Bori]

Thanks for the info!!