What is this

[01xp]

So my refugium all died and I got this stuff growning. At first thought it was DINO then cyano so I did chemi clean treatment nothing happened. Waited a week now I'm 24hrs into a second chemi clean treatment. My phos was 0.08 last night what you'll think it is

 

[gentlefish]

Sadly so I believe you are on the money with Dino’s. There is a HUGE threat towards identification and treatment. Controversial, too. Many believe the nutrients are too low. Vibrant may help. It this comes off overnight, possibly UV sterilizer.

 

[01xp]

I have a uv already installed

 

[01xp]

And it doesn't go away when the light are off. The peek phos was .76

 

[gentlefish]

1/3 of the cases seem to be Amphidinium. No matter, a microscopic diagnosis would really be helpful.

 

[01xp]

I don't have a microscope..... dang what you think vest treatment I was just looking at dinox

 

[gentlefish]

There was a post for ID, using homogenized bakteria through coffee filter to test for visual adherence of Dino’s. could not find it back on the quick. I thought Humblefish wrote it up.

 

[01xp]

The what? I don't understand I'm sorry only been reefing for 2 yrs

 

[vetteguy53081]

Unfortunately dino but can be beat.
First action is to verify your phosphate and nitrate levels for elevated readings.
Prepare by starting with a water change and blow this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles.
Turn lights off (at least white andd run bkue at 15%) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights
During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as bacter 7) per 10 gallons.
Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED CORAL FOODS OR ADD NOPOX as it is food for dinos.
Day 5,, you can start with blue lights - ramping up and work your white lights up slowly

 

[01xp]

Okay first I need to water change cause I still have chemi clean right? Should I even spend the money on dino x?

 

[gentlefish]

Sorry, this would be a non microscope test for Dino’s.

Collect a sample in some tank water. Agitate it and pour through a coffee filter. Set it in window for about 30 minutes and see if it reforms/clumps back up. If so it is likely dinos.

Kindly copied from the Dino discussion forum.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Okay first I need to water change cause I still have chemi clean right? Should I even spend the money on dino x?

I find peroxide more effective. DinoX for me was a waste of money

 

[gentlefish]

Okay first I need to water change cause I still have chemi clean right? Should I even spend the money on dino x?

Chemiclean is erythromycin and can be absorbed with carbon.
Dinox will have different results pending the Dino strain. It certainly did not work for me. Vibrant may be more likely to work than Dino X.

 

[01xp]

Sorry, this would be a non microscope test for Dino’s.

Collect a sample in some tank water. Agitate it and pour through a coffee filter. Set it in window for about 30 minutes and see if it reforms/clumps back up. If so it is likely dinos.

Kindly copied from the Dino discussion forum.

Alright I'll try it in the am

I find peroxide more effective. DinoX for me was a waste of money

Okay I'll give it a try so just turn all light colors off except blues I'm using a photon v2

 

[01xp]

I tried vibrant in my old 60 and only got cyano. I did the chemi clean cause I was hoping it wasn't dino

 

[gentlefish]

Sorry. That seems to be the everlasting triangle of reefing
Dino’s-cyanobacter-algae
One seems to go from one extrem to the other.
When I had Dino’s, I decided to go into algae farming to overcome them. Months later, I moved away from algae. Got some Cyanobacter back for it!

 

[vetteguy53081]

Alright I'll try it in the am

Okay I'll give it a try so just turn all light colors off except blues I'm using a photon v2

Yes. Red promotes algae and green similar. If you dont have light sensitive coral- do a blackout . If you do, bring blues down to 10% and nice lights !!

 

[gentlefish]

A more recent post had the interesting approach that maybe getting rid of Dino’s is not working and focussed more on overall tank balance and stability.
What I am trying to say is: go with the blackout. There is no, if any downside. You may even dose 3% peroxide during. But sadly be prepared that Dino’s could return. So the blackout could solve your problems or move you forward only.

 

[01xp]

So I have:

Rainbow infusion zoa
Green branching hammer
John deere lepto
Some unknown red acro
Oregon tort
Walt Disney
I just tested water and it's
Alk 10.3 Hanna
Phos 0.04 Hanna
N03 0 ppm Api
Ph 8.2 Api
My tank get a bit of natural light so a blackout will be hard but do able, coral should be okay. I live in ny so I'm the middle of a blizzard it's gonna be a next week job. But I'll also try the peroxide

 

[gentlefish]

Oh wow a Walt Disney! Always toyed with the idea!
Your nitrates are too low. This could help Dino’s to outcompete the competition (with the usual disclaimer that there is a different train of thought).
Blackout? But aluminium foil and tape. Be careful to make sure access to oxygen and that the temperature does not raise. Lost a colony before, not realizing that I did in fact increase isolation.