120 gallon rip clean

[CoralClasher]

Hey is that lysmata still kickin

He was hiding probably starting to molt. I dripped some fish food in and he is still happy. My tank hasn’t been this clean or happy in years!!

 

[brandon429]

So darn bright and laser clear !

 

[CoralClasher]

Yeah crystal clear water and looks brighter now with only one light on 50%

 

[CoralClasher]

One week update. Water has stayed crystal clear everything is looking good. I haven’t touched the glass. Shrimp did molt last night. Sorry for the blue pictures I’m still waiting for the master light so I’m stuck with acclamation setting.

 

[brandon429]

I showed this thread to many nano reefers for work prep those shots above look astounding

 

[brandon429]

Posted just now in a chat message using personal will as an example of the ultimate tank life extender. Your rip clean shows others that acting preemptively is powerful. The greater public advice would be to do opposite of what you’ve done here. The greater public is not tasked with keeping anyone’s tank free of invasions, they’re more at ease telling you to keep the invasion as uglies come and go.


1000% of the public would tell you rip cleaning a healthy tank is destabilizing. On a scale of one to ten, they’re twelve wrong on that assumption.



Larger the tank, more likely allowed uglies won’t ever go...preemption rules for conserving massive investments and small ones too.


Posted in an ongoing chat with a friend:

Jon just did this on a 120 gallon reef, because he doesn’t want the uglies phase, he is the one poster among thousands simply willing to act early as prevention. He just implemented the reefing fountain of youth.

120 gallon rip clean

I’ve decided to perform a rip clean on my 120 with 100% new water. The tank has been running for 5 years and was battling Dino for several months. I used the bacteria method from elegant corals and worked great I haven’t seen Dino in months now. But I tried several other methods including...

www.reef2reef.com

Jon acted preemptively

He was thorough

He was resolved

He knew the outcome before the application

Invasion fuel is now missing from the tank

By acting fast and preventatively he ensures his investment continues

 

[brandon429]

Following the public’s advice on algae control makes fluconazole stock go up lol and retailing in general. You pay to play if you follow the masses on algae care. Twenty dollar bottle of vibrant every few weeks your tank is addicted to for a year, OR preemption

Buying $ of waste away to fund bottle bac sellers vette payments OR actually removing detritus free...the problem with rip cleans is having too few courageous enough to run them.

We’ve been lied to. Reef surgery isn’t harmful or destabilizing it’s secret success sauce

In all our years of work threads I can only recall one preemptive rip clean, this one, yet today scanning the general forum and especially the algae invasion forum I see total retailing running all algae advice, plus advice to circularly reinforce retailing and keeping detritus packed in the rocks. The impact of following the public’s advice on algae is much more algae and wasted rocks and corals (do overs)

If anyone ever tells you a rip clean is destabilizing, they’re far off base. This should start a new trend in reefing where we all collectively refuse to waste living things. We do what it takes to stop all losses, beforehand.

 

[CoralClasher]

Got my light back today. So far everything is looking good. I’ve noticed my nutrients are slowly climbing No3 just above 4ppm phosphate 0.39 I’m hoping getting the lights back on normal operation will help.

 

[brandon429]

What you did could relocate that tank to a MACNA convention at any time you wanted even if it was twenty times a year, all the corals would grow, the algae would stay gone by having detritus robbed, and you could throughput so much feed knowing a forced rip clean was coming up the coral growth would increase even beyond current levels

Your tank looks vibrant and hungry for feed in those pics they’re laser clear

not hungry as in starving but as in corals wanting to eat/make mass and go to war with neighbors / what they do

the requirement to clean glass slows tremendously for a while

 

[CoralClasher]

What you did could relocate that tank to a MACNA convention at any time you wanted even if it was twenty times a year, all the corals would grow, the algae would stay gone by having detritus robbed, and you could throughput so much feed knowing a forced rip clean was coming up the coral growth would increase even beyond current levels

Your tank looks vibrant and hungry for feed in those pics they’re laser clear

not hungry as in starving but as in corals wanting to eat/make mass and go to war with neighbors / what they do

the requirement to clean glass slows tremendously for a while

Do you think ich could survive what I did?December 9th was the last day fish were in the tank.

 

[brandon429]

@Humblefish @HotRocks

Hey if you get a chance to review, I wanted you to see how well he’s attacked organic waste stores here. In reading disease forum works I noticed the insulation factor afforded by high levels of detritus substrate mentioned, that’s missing here. Flushing big time has occurred, storm surge modeled.

what’s the best approach for fish disease preps moving forward here

 

[CoralClasher]

Currently all fish are spot free and happy in a 55 gallon tank without copper. They all went 15 days of copper.

 

[brandon429]

I do not recall a more thorough preventative care thread, taking action before troubles

Our entire hobby is reactive in nature, many products available for us to pay for when dealing in reactions

We have been instructed thats reefs run best hands off... an entire retail industry has offsets for that advice as reefs age

this opts you out, trading calories burned in reef tank gardening for longevity and fish health, I can’t wait to see what fish disease experts think of the big picture here regarding preventative tank and fish care. A change away from typical reef procedure is here for longevity tracking.

 

[brandon429]

Pending review from fish refs I’ll vote 76 day re fallow. Feeding the corals and system won’t import disease, and treatment water can be exchanged for normal running water in the holding tank. You’ve come so far, and have a complete fallow full running setup...it seems to complete a renewed fallow is to throw 100% of today’s top preventative care science at this aquarium, but it also stinks to have to wait so long...those fish want IN ha nice they can see what awaits a new ocean

If it’s not particularly harmful for those healthy fish to ride longer I would. The totality of what’s applied here is the top method for caring for marine animals it’s accounting for the ecosystem from every direction.

 

[CoralClasher]

I’ve got some Molly’s ready. I read somewhere that ich could be done with the life cycle in as little as 9 days depending on temp. I keep the temp 80 degrees. I’m hesitant because of that 76 day fallow for ich. I would hate to restart the clock.

 

[brandon429]

Nice fish lab man!!

 

[CoralClasher]

I still have the new 55 gallon tank that held the rocks running with sand and one rock. I’ll use the Molly’s there and let the DT sit for the remaining 76 days. I believe the fish will hold out just fine they are all healthy and eating great.

 

[NS Mike D]

I vote to sticky this thread. Thanks for sharing,. The second I saw @brandon429 show up it was on my radar. Two weeks ago I pulled and cleaned all but two very large rock (rookie mistake 5 years ago, should have started with just enough rock to provide anchor for my corals). All the attached corals survived the H2O2 rock scrubbing . I was particularly worried about the zoas, but they look better than ever. I've been storming my sand bed for some time now, but I know this is only a partial remedy an the uglies will return.

This now has me planning a complete rip clean

 

[Leadfooted]

Awesome turn around! Give Reeftown a shot at knocking out your Aptasia, well worth it.

 

[CoralClasher]

Awesome turn around! Give Reeftown a shot at knocking out your Aptasia, well worth it.

Thanks. I did put a few Nudibranchs in my refuge and some peppermint shrimp. I don’t have Aiptasia in the refuge. I have four wrasses in QT so I’m not sure if Nudibranch will be a good idea for DT. My copper band butterfly was making a huge difference but he was the one that gave me ich and was only in the tank for a week.