15 fish dead and counting.

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Well I've lost 15 fish, maybe more. So far . I figured out one culprit. One of my heaters was perpetually shocking the tank. Which I have shut off the bad heater and replacing both heaters with new ones tomorrow. On top of that my foxface has stopped eating. He finally came out a little. He twitched a lot. Finally I saw one side of him and he's got a 1/4" cut on by his Gill on one side of his body. Almost like something large crawled out of him . He constantly shakes his head and twitches . Could this be a burn mark from the electricity? Or did the electricity stress them all to a point of getting infections? Or they unrelated? It's a 400 gallon mixed reef. 5 months old and 15 fish dead in the last 2-3 weeks . Corals all grew quite a bit in the last month... Guess it will just be a large coral tank soon.
 
I don't disagree. Any idea if the rabbitfish is salvageable with a gash on his Gill and not eating?

That's hard to say, my foxface has been stung by nems, fought with a powder brown tang to the "nth" degree and with a prazipro treatment to the tank has come back from near death. They're pretty hardy. I wouldn't give up on him yet. Feed him Nori soaked in garlic.
 
He used to shred nori like there was no tomorrow. Along with my black tang. They both are eating much slower. I'm hoping what's left makes a full recovery. I'm installing new heaters today. My turf scrubber is going nuts pulling phosphates and nitrates out of the water. It's almost completely full of hair algae within 3 days now. So much crap it's getting out, it's crazy. Fish die in places that I have no idea where they died. So, the only option is to pull them out in the form of macro algae and skimmate.... :(

Probably doesn't help the other fish. Some of them went deep inside small holes in rocks to die.. I'd have to drill the rocks out to get to their corpses... Maybe it feeds more anaerobic bacteria anyways? I've tested nitrates several times now, and they keep coming back between 1 and 2 with red Sea test kits. So, I don't think the deaths are causing any type of ammonia spikes.. Plus, if there was ammonia my corals and nems would be dieing. Neither are affected so far. Just going to spend the summer extracting nitrates and phosphates and hopefully with only 4 -5 fish in 400 gallons of water I can have a really nice looking tank by the fall and start adding more fish wihtout any major consequences to water quality and with no more electrocuted fish or diseases.
 
Very sorry to hear about your tank troubles!

Um, this is not a brag by any means! But our fish have been in 40 nitrate (yes, 40, four zero) for almost a year.
Nitrate isn't your fish's problem.

Everything needs a small amount of nitrate and phosphate to live.
Decades ago older test kits were unable to read true zero on either nitrate or phosphate. Getting both down to "zero", or undetectable, with then current testing technology was the goal.

Stripping both completely down to true zero is bad. ULN tanks are mostly now seen as a less desirable idea.

And yeah, if your corals are doing great then your tank should be good, right?!
I would have used that as a yardstick too! :-)


Like I said earlier, our nitrate is horrible and high for almost a year in our 75 gallon tank. Too many fish, too well fed. Too many cryptic fish I'm always worried about starving.
(We are getting an ATS in next week. Looking forward to under 10 nitrate. Not concerned with going below 5 nitrate)

I am absolutely guessing it is based on your fish nutrition.
Do you mostly feed pellets?

Live foods, clams/mussels from the seafood counter are some of the best (lol, and cheapest) foods you can feed almost every single fish you have. It isn't ideal for a few plankton feeders, but most everyone else is a perfect candidate.

Pellets dont have the level of oil or fat needed by the fish.

The main problem with "not pellets" is the time commitment, lack of automation and overall general inconvenience.

Pros
6 of our coolest fish are handfed directly from my fingertips. :-)
Half of the rest are hovering within 6".

Cons
Vacation is stressful. Cubes of frozen mysis by the tank sitter in the meantime.
Better Half hates the smell of clams. :-/
Chop them quickly still frozen and plan on 10 to 15 minutes time commitment.

Stupid wrasse jump out of the tank in the time it takes me to open the tops and then return with dirty fingertips covered in minced clams. :-/
Down to 3 out of 5 in the past year.

What types of fish have you lost?
 
I've lost the following:
3 Pajama Cardinals (been there since the beginning 4-5 months ago.)
2 Black and white clown fish (been there since the beginning)
8 Lyretail Anthias. (7 orangish female and 1 blue male)
1 Blue Throat trigger fish. (was awesome and had been living in the fish store tanks for 2 months, feeding great, and gentle / peaceful fish).
1 Powder Blue tang. He had completely destroy 2 other powder blue tangs and was doing great.... until the fish started dieing. :(
1 Yellow headed Goby

What I have left in 350 gallon Display:

1. Dragon Wrasse (doing great! Been there since the beginning)
1. Yellow Coris Wrasse (doing awesome! Newer addition)
1. Black Tang - been in the display about 2-3 months. Still eating and doing great! Showed some signs of behavioral stress, but seems better now. Still eating.
1. Fox Face Rabbit Fish. Has a gash one one side near his gills (not right next to though.) He's breathing hard, constantly opening and closing his mouth, won't eat, shakes his head a lot, but will openly swim now and then. Not sure if he's o.k. or not... My assumption is that he'll be the next to go, which brings me to 3 fish left if he dies and he's a big fish, fully grown. Been in a previous tank 5-6 years.
1. Blue Spot Goby, eating well and behaving normal.

Inverts include:
1. at least 1 if not two nassarius snails (out of 5).
12+ SPS Corals.
3-4 LPS corals
2 watermelon anemones (Doing good, haven't moved much and showing signs of growing.)
 

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