150 gallon project/support question

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    So I didn't have any immediate plans to upgrade to a bigger tank, I had a 55 I'm happy with but got a deal I couldn't pass up on a 150 gallon tank with a stand, lighting, and some other odds and ends. I can't wait to start working on the tank and getting some aqua scape going but I had a question about the massive amount of weight also... I have a 1 story house with a concrete basement, would a few extra support beams be sufficient? I'm thinking of the ones from Lowe's or home Depot that you can pretty much jack up to the correct height, which for my basement to the floor joists would be about 6 1/2 foot or so. Unless I would also need horizontal support? Just curious on what some of you other guys with huge set ups did.
 
The water by itself is 1250 pounds. With rock and sand and equipment plus the weight of the tank and stand...at least three-quarters of a ton altogether.

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;)and here I thought this was going to be a truck bed fish tank build, what a let down... j/k:D
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I think maybe @redfishbluefish has insight into structural concerns and can lend some insight to your question!
 
My disclaimer: I'm not an engineer and am only giving an opinion. If in doubt, hire a structural engineer.

I've done supports on my house and also helped a number of friends adding supports to their house.

You may use the adjustable jack posts available at the big box stores, or build supporting walls in place of the jacks.....either will work, and with planning, you could use the built walls as your new fish room in the basement.

Now here's the specifics on what I did....and I tend to overkill. My tank ran parallel to the beams below. I first sistered the existing 2 beams directly below and added bridging or cross bracing. This greatly assists in transfer load to adjoining beams. No matter what you do, if you don't have bridging, add it. I'll show with pictures:

The plan:




Sistered two beams (and you can see my crossbracing (bridging):



When bridging joists, it doesn't matter if you use crossbracing ("X" shape) or solid block, with either, the strongest bridging is when they are in a line:

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Now my tank sat there fat and happy for maybe six years or so, and my little brain was still bothered by the weight. Since I had started working on finishing the basement, I decided to add even more support before the walls were built. So I made a beam out of 4 2x6's and placed it half the distance of the joists now perpendicular to the joists. This beam was supported by two jack posts buried in the new walls being built in the basement.

The plan:




And the execution:



A couple little tidbits to considered:

1. If you have engineered wood I-beams, you need to use crush blocks where you put point loads (a supporting wall or jack posts). Google and you'll see what I'm talking about.....it's easy to do.

2. Concrete slabs weren't poured to support point loads. Might wish to put support on the floor to transfer some of that load from the jack post.
 
;)and here I thought this was going to be a truck bed fish tank build, what a let down... j/k:D
Following tooooooo!
That definitely would have been something new! lol
My disclaimer: I'm not an engineer and am only giving an opinion. If in doubt, hire a structural engineer.

I've done supports on my house and also helped a number of friends adding supports to their house.
Wow that was extremely helpful, thanks! today I'm gonna go down into the basement and get some measurements and then try to get everything I need planned and figured out to go get tomorrow hopefully. I'll definitely let you know how it goes and try to take some pictures as it goes on.
 
Just figured I would give everyone an update, after hours of driving to the closest big LFS which is almost 2 hours away, and then my local home depot to get supplies and spending roughly $900 I got all the supplies I need to continue the build. Roughly about 100LBS of rock that I can't wait to start sculpting with roughly another 50lbs from my old tank. A new powerhead, a new heater capable of heating the tank, a ton of aragonite sand, and some other odds and ends. Then the most important supplies, joists to sister the pre existing ones, more joists to cut to the correct lengths in order to bridge, and also some support beams to jack up to the joists for the added support, and some miscellaneous power tools and other supplies to get the job done lol... thanks again to everyone so far for the interest and advice! Can't wait for my next few days off to start the supports and get some scaping done.:D:) tank1.JPG tank2.JPG tank3.JPG tank4.JPG
 
Finally making some progress, not sure how I feel about setting up my first major rockscape lol
 

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Finally gonna get some water in here today and the lights and every thing else running.
 

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Figured I would update everyone, got a new phone so I don't have many pics to post, but tank is doing awesome... got a nice pair of mature perculas enjoying it

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