50g Cichlid build

[Townes_Van_Camp]

That's why you have a male-only show tank, or breed single-species. I raised the vast majority of mine up, and got a few select juvenile males along the way for my tank.

There are ways to have multi species Mbuna tanks without a lot of inter-breeding, and Tanganyikans will stick to their own. Again, it's all in how you keep them, and stock your tank.

I get that. But again... Unless you go to great lengths, lots of brown fish. Have a good night friend.

 

[Roatan Reef]

The biggest problem with Africans is that after a while they all end up being the same shade of blah I mean brown.

Say what??..never seen or heard of this.. Freshwater for over 20 years..da Fuq??

 

[Townes_Van_Camp]

Say what??..never seen or heard of this.. Freshwater for over 20 years..da Fuq??

Put a bunch of multi colored fish who can breed together in a tank together and they will all make brown babies eventually. Like the other dude says, all male or species only tanks.

 

[CascadianExotics]

Say what??..never seen or heard of this.. Freshwater for over 20 years..da Fuq??

Dude's just making stuff up. With all the forums, groups, and YouTube content creators out there dedicated to the cichlid hobby, you'd think SOMEONE would be warning people about this phenomenon if it were even remotely possible for it to happen. Even as an admin of a rapidly growing cichlid group, I can safely say this is the first time I've ever even heard of it.

 

[Townes_Van_Camp]

Double post

 

[Townes_Van_Camp]

Dude's just making stuff up. With all the forums, groups, and YouTube content creators out there dedicated to the cichlid hobby, you'd think SOMEONE would be warning people about this phenomenon if it were even remotely possible for it to happen. Even as an admin of a rapidly growing cichlid group, I can safely say this is the first time I've ever even heard of it.

"Phenomenon" means nature in this case I suppose.

Cross breed cichlids come out brown one day. If you put different breeding species in a tank, hybrid brown babies.

Good lord, you even admit as much in a response to me that states the precautions you have to take to keep it from happening. What brand of intentional obtuseness is this that you are exercising?

Your cichlid group needs more knowledgeable leadership I think.

All these people are in on it with me... Read the comments.

 

[NanoJHB]

"Phenomenon" means nature in this case I suppose.

Cross breed cichlids come out brown one day. If you put different breeding species in a tank, hybrid brown babies.

Good lord, you even admit as much in a response to me that states the precautions you have to take to keep it from happening. What brand of intentional obtuseness is this that you are exercising?

Your cichlid group needs more knowledgeable leadership I think.

All these people are in on it with me... Read the comments.

Shucks I think you might be relating 1 or 2 cases to the entire community.

I've kept all Africans you can think of, from Frontosa and Haps to Mbuna and shellies. Never had the problem of an " all brown tank". Nor have i ever seen an all brown tank.

African tanks are some of the most colorful non reef tanks out there

 

[Townes_Van_Camp]

Shucks I think you might be relating 1 or 2 cases to the entire community.

I've kept all Africans you can think of, from Frontosa and Haps to Mbuna and shellies. Never had the problem of an " all brown tank". Nor have i ever seen an all brown tank.

African tanks are some of the most colorful non reef tanks out there

Sure.

Anyhow, New guy, Good luck!! Cichlids are super nice. Buy all males if you want a multi species African tank. Or listen to these guys.

 

[CascadianExotics]

"Phenomenon" means nature in this case I suppose.

Cross breed cichlids come out brown one day. If you put different breeding species in a tank, hybrid brown babies.

Good lord, you even admit as much in a response to me that states the precautions you have to take to keep it from happening. What brand of intentional obtuseness is this that you are exercising?

Your cichlid group needs more knowledgeable leadership I think.

All these people are in on it with me... Read the comments.

First, I only acknowledged hybridization and steps to prevent it...Mostly common sense practices that are not such "great lengths," but rather common practices amongst African cichlid keepers.

Second, you should watch some Lake Malawi diving videos because this browning out does not occur in nature. If it does, it's pretty rare.

Third, you're using one video of what appears to be Mbuna of unknown origin, and applying it to the whole of "African Cichlids."

This is called "cherry picking evidence." You're picking the one instance with the one type of cichlid that this phenomenon can occur, all of which are from one specific Lake, and saying this is true for ALL African species. Might I remind you, as I all too frequently do other people, that Africa is a big place with literally two thirds of the world's cichlid species spanning the entire continent.

Finally, attacking the leadership of one cichlid group based on a difference of opinion is truly bad form. I'm only one of 6 Admins on that page, and none of us are ichthyologists. You don't have to be one to coordinate people, drive growth, and keep the peace.

However, what being an admin on a page like that does for me is give access to the pulse of the community, and an insight to what is going on in that hobby. I have to read a LOT of posts, settle arguments, and talk with a great deal of knowledgeable and experienced people every day.

I'm not saying that the browning phenomenon CANNOT happen. What I am saying is that it is practically unheard of, and all evidence that I have seen over the years that I have been involved with cichlids points that direction.

If you want to expand your own knowledge of cichlids, and see just how easy it is to keep them, please come on by the Cichlid Hub group on Facebook. It's a friendly, and knowledgeable community of dedicated hobbyists. We'd love to have you!