7 Big Fish in a ~270 gallon system - Achievable?

5 yellow tang, purple tang, maculiceps tang, dussomieri tang, Blonde naso tang, 6 anthias (mixed0, 4 clowns, cleaner wrasse, 3 firefish goby, 2 purple firefish goby, and more
 
5 yellow tang, purple tang, maculiceps tang, dussomieri tang, Blonde naso tang, 6 anthias (mixed0, 4 clowns, cleaner wrasse, 3 firefish goby, 2 purple firefish goby, and more

What tank size is it again?
 
Thanks all for the advice,

What I could do is....

x3 Maroon Clownfish
x1 Sailfin Tang
x1 Blue Tang
x1 Purple Tang
x1 Chocolate Tang
x1 Niger Trigger
x1 Lemon Peel Angel
x2 Leopard Wrasse
x2 Chromis (If at all)
x2 Lyretail Anthias (Maybe 3 if I donate the Chromis)
x1 Fuzzy Dwarf Lionfish

The Kole Tang isn’t a necessity, but I would like one as I love their look. However, I’d much rather prefer a purple tang.

Antennata Lionfish can given to my friend who’s had an eye on it. He’s got big (180+) FOWLR systems.

Chromis I’ll probably donate.

Quoyi Parrotfish is still a huge debate for me
I don’t think you will have to give up the chromis hardly notice mine in 300gal reef.
 
Overall, I don't think your list is too far off.

I can't help you with the parrotfish...no knowledge there.

The three Zebrasoma genus tangs may be a problem, especially when the sailfin gets big. Your thought of replacing the yellow with a lemonpeel angel is a great one, as long as this isn't a reef. Lemonpeel angels are infamous, more so than other dwarfs. The sailfin may outgrow the 180 eventually. You can cross that bridge in the future.

Something I haven't seen mentioned yet, is that the Niger trigger may decide to chew on the lion's fins.
And the Niger gets big fast!
 
Hi,

I know that the sailfin tangs get huge. Person at my LFS has seen em at 2 feet in public aquariums. Eventually when it outgrows my tank (which will be many years) then I’ll figure something out.

Unfortunately my tank is and will continue to be a mixed reef... Do you have any idea on other bright yellow fish besides a yellow tang? I’ve heard of the yellow coris wrasse, but I don’t know if it’d fight with my leopard pair. Yellow gobies are out of the question due to the lionfish. I’m considering a yellow longnose butterfly or a foxface though.

I’ve heard rumors of the Niger possibly chewing on the lions fins. So far I haven’t seen that happen. Heck, I don’t think my trigger even knows my lions exist! But I will keep an eye out
Yellow and reef safe you could do a coperband butterfly or pyramid butterfly.
 
Sailfin is unlikely to reach wild size in an aquarium. Mine appears to have maxed out at 8” or so. Still a large and active fish, but I cannot see it getting to 16”.
 
For a yellow, reef safe fish, I'd go with a foxface. They tend to be peaceful, their spines will discourage predators, and they'll mow down algae. If your only reason for the kole tang was algae control, then a foxface would eliminate the need for the tang, thus saving you some room.
 
Sailfin is unlikely to reach wild size in an aquarium. Mine appears to have maxed out at 8” or so. Still a large and active fish, but I cannot see it getting to 16”.
How old is your sailfin? And what size tank? I saw one in Orlando that was 20+years and about 8-10” in 300 gal reef. Not for sale of course. Beautiful fish though!
My Sohal is about 10” and is 12+ yrs. just moved her to a 300gal, 8’ tank.
 
Yeah...

I feel like all fish never reach their max size in captivity, unless provided an extraordinarily big tank for their wild size. For example, when I was on the freshwater side of the hobby I had a red tail “shark” for 2-3 years and he only reached 4 inches instead of the proposed 6; even in a 180 gallon!

Now, does this mean you can put a parrot fish in a 20 gallon because it “won’t ever grow to full size anyways?” Absolutely not. However, I am pretty liberal on the stocking of a tank. I’ve pushed the limits before (kole tang in a 55 gallon) however all must be within reason. For example, not 3 big tangs in a 55 gallon like the sohal or sail fin.

The reason why I asked this whole question though is because there is a fine line between pushing the boundaries, and just being plain stupid with your tank. I want to make sure I’m not doing the latter if I were to go with my stocking list.
 
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Yeah...

I feel like all fish never reach their max size in captivity, unless provided an extraordinarily big tank for their wild size. For example, when I was on the freshwater side of the hobby I had a red tail “shark” for 2-3 years and he only reached 4 inches instead of the proposed 6; even in a 180 gallon!

Now, does this mean you can put a parrot fish in a 20 gallon because it “won’t ever grow to full size anyways?” Absolutely not. However, I am pretty liberal on the stocking of a tank. I’ve pushed the limits before (kole tang in a 55 gallon) however all must be within reason. For example, not 3 big tangs in a 55 gallon like the sohal or sail fin.

The reason why I asked this whole question though is because there is a fine line between pushing the boundaries, and just being plain stupid with your tank. I want to make sure I’m not doing the latter if I were to go with my stocking list.
Hi! I really don’t know anything about the lion fish have never tried them, but I’ve done a lot of tangs, angels, puffers and triggers. My dejardini tang has been in the 300
Reef for 2 yrs and doesn’t seem to have grown at all! We did have our yellow and hippo tang in a 75 and then upgraded to the 300. I had the best plan for 11 tangs - naso, blue, three bristletooth, four zebrazomas, powderbrown and Caribbean blue. We had most already in three separate tanks and added a few more that LFS quarantined more me and we put them all in at the same time. Never had balance with the tangs even in a 300gal they did not cooperate. I had to remove the scopas to 180 with my Sohal, naso died unknown reason, then removed powder brown was picking on my yellow and purple. The tomini almost died was beaten so bad by blue eyed kole. Then removed purple was getting picked on by Caribbean blue. Then removed Caribbean blue because it picked on all the tangs except the hippo who is queen of the tank but shared of her own shadow!
The powder brown got velvet from a new fish I put with it in a new tank I set up just for the powder brown :( the purple and tomini are now in that 93 cube together. Have the five other tangs in the 300 reef and have the scopas with my Sohal in new 300 gal fish only moved from a 180gal last week. We moved the Caribbean blue into that tank at the same time and so far the Sohal has left the Caribbean blue alone but it’s an 8’ tank.
I always push the limits and recommendations a bit too but have made accommodations when my plans don’t work. I have never had to return a fish but have bought bigger tanks!
We also have 4 large angels, 3 triggers and 2 puffers in the 300 fo.
My Niger was 2” a year ago and now bigger than my hand and is a little agressive but only with the other triggers. My red tail trigger puts the Niger in its place. I think the Niger would be fine as the only trigger and not over fed in the 180.

I think your stocking list is fine except the parrot fish (I can’t say don’t know and the lions as I’ve said) just have a plan Incase the tangs have something else in mind other than getting along like mine did!
Please let us know how it goes. I like your plan. And I never knew how really pretty the wrasses can be. Wish we had more of those! Good luck and post FTS.
 
We have a 250g with no aggression issues between any of the fish. There is plenty of open space above the rocks, around them and caves,

sailfin tang, 6+ years
purple tang, 1+ year
vlamingii tang, 4+ years
princess parrot fish, 1 year
flagfin angel, 9 months
lamark's angel, 1 1/2 years
flame angel
blue face angel, new
nigar trigger, 6 months
rabbitfish, 9 months
melanurus wrasse, 6+ years
star leopard wrasse
bird wrasse
heniochus butterfly
lawnmower blenny
hawkfish
clownfish
 
We have a 250g with no aggression issues between any of the fish. There is plenty of open space above the rocks, around them and caves,

sailfin tang, 6+ years
purple tang, 1+ year
vlamingii tang, 4+ years
princess parrot fish, 1 year
flagfin angel, 9 months
lamark's angel, 1 1/2 years
flame angel
blue face angel, new
nigar trigger, 6 months
rabbitfish, 9 months
melanurus wrasse, 6+ years
star leopard wrasse
bird wrasse
heniochus butterfly
lawnmower blenny
hawkfish
clownfish
That’s a really nice mix of fish, I bet it’s a beautiful tank! You should post FTS do we can see all those beautiful fish! Thank you
 
Hi all,

So it seems that the general consensus here is that my stocking list is ok...? Some even say a little more leeway is possible for even more fish...? Please do correct me if I’m wrong otherwise. I do not want to create conflict.

I added in a purple tang today with the existing sailfin tang; they get along wonderfully!

At this point I’m essentially giving up on the yellow tang as I feel like I’ve pushed my luck far enough already. I will most likely go with a fox face in the future.

I’m beginning to wonder if the antennata lionfish was a mistake. As much as I enjoy him in my system, I wonder if he’ll become a problem as he matures?
 
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Hi all,

So it seems that the general consensus here is that my stocking list is ok...? Some even say a little more leeway is possible for even more fish...? Please do correct me if I’m wrong otherwise. I do not want to create conflict.

I added in a purple tang today with the existing sailfin tang; they get along wonderfully!

At this point I’m essentially giving up on the yellow tang as I feel like I’ve pushed my luck far enough already. I will most likely go with a fox face in the future.

I’m beginning to wonder if the antennata lionfish was a mistake. As much as I enjoy him in my system, I wonder if he’ll become a problem as he matures?
Really glad the purple is working! I agree foxface is a good idea!
 
I think your fish list is fine for a 270. I have more in my 300 without any issues whatsoever. Do water changes, have a good skimmer and you'll be fine. There may be a fish or two out of the tangs that turns into a jerk that you might have to remove but overall bioload is fine.
 
How old is your sailfin? And what size tank? I saw one in Orlando that was 20+years and about 8-10” in 300 gal reef. Not for sale of course. Beautiful fish though!
My Sohal is about 10” and is 12+ yrs. just moved her to a 300gal, 8’ tank.

I have had it for 3 years; the prior owner 4 before that - so nominally 7-8 years old. It's grown a bit for me; maybe an inch in those three years. Tank is a 45.
 

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