80 gallone All in One...

[Ryan4485]

Is this a good fish tank for an 80 gallon reef tank? I am concerned it won't get the job done in the filtration department being an all in one...

https://www.innovative-marine.com/shop/SR-Pro-2-80-AIO-Aquarium-w-APS-Stand-White-p222355527

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SR Pro 2 | 80 AIO Aquarium w/ APS Stand - White
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[Kellie in CA]

IM makes fantastic tanks. I just set a new one up today (40L). AIO is my preference, but I think I’m in my the minority on that.

 

[saltyhog]

AIO do present some challenges but that's a very nice tank. I actually have a smaller 25 Lagoon made by IM and it's a great little tank.

 

[Han]

I’ve have the 60 gallon version of that tank for almost 5 years now and I still love it. I do have other tanks with sumps, but the AIO is definitely easier maintenance wise. As long as you understand the limitations that an AIO imposes, I think they make great tanks.

 

[Ryan4485]

AIO do present some challenges but that's a very nice tank. I actually have a smaller 25 Lagoon made by IM and it's a great little tank.

What is the main challenge you are thinking of?

 

[GoVols]

What is the main challenge you are thinking of?

FWIW:
For a setup that is that big, a sump would be my choice.

Seems like an AIO that big would accumulate a lot of funky build up in the filtration area.

 

[Tamberav]

Depends on your goals. I would not do an AIO in such a large tank if you like fish a lot. Too easy to overstock since filtration is limited.

Also accessing the back may be a nightmare with a tank so long.

Small AIOs are fantastic since they can run on water changes for filtration and access is easy.

Big tanks do not have these advantages. I would go sump for sure.

 

[Ron Reefman]

I've done 20+ years with tanks from 35g to 425g and they all included a sump and most had a refugium.

Now I am seriously downsizing and currently run a 16g with a HOB filter. My plan is to custom build a 40g aio tank.

Smaller tanks are far less time consuming and less work. But if you want a heavy fish load, you have to be very aware that an aio tank has limits or will require a lot more maintenance. My 40g aio will have no fish... well maybe 1 or 2 as part of a CUC. IMHO, an 80g aio will need to have a smaller population of fish in order to be less work and successful long term.

 

[NickHolmes]

I’ve got the original SR60, have no clue how old it is but they are built well and the IM stand is solid. Would love to have a sump so I could add a fuge but it’ll have to do for now. Just make sure you use a good skimmer, very happy with the tunze 9004. Detritus shouldn’t be an issue in the back if you use filter socks or floss.

 

[Ryan4485]

Depends on your goals. I would not do an AIO in such a large tank if you like fish a lot. Too easy to overstock since filtration is limited.

Also accessing the back may be a nightmare with a tank so long.

Small AIOs are fantastic since they can run on water changes for filtration and access is easy.

Big tanks do not have these advantages. I would go sump for sure.

What if you put a protein skimmer on it? Still the sump is your best advice?

 

[Ryan4485]

I’ve got the original SR60, have no clue how old it is but they are built well and the IM stand is solid. Would love to have a sump so I could add a fuge but it’ll have to do for now. Just make sure you use a good skimmer, very happy with the tunze 9004. Detritus shouldn’t be an issue in the back if you use filter socks or floss.

How often do you do water changes? And what percent?

 

[Tamberav]

What if you put a protein skimmer on it? Still the sump is your best advice?

the skimmers that fit and hob are not as effective as ones that can fit in the sump.

The tank will work fine but you may have to run less fish or less messy fish is all. You can only fit certain things in an AIO.

 

[NickHolmes]

How often do you do water changes? And what percent?

20% every 3-4 weeks

 

[vlangel]

the skimmers that fit and hob are not as effective as ones that can fit in the sump.

The tank will work fine but you may have to run less fish or less messy fish is all. You can only fit certain things in an AIO.

I agree with Tamberav. I have had several AIO tanks in my earlier years (although mine had HOB filters and skimmers rather than the built in compartments for those components). My versions were definitely less clean and tidy looking but I could access them easily and I could tailor their size for my fish load. Even so, big water changes was the primary tool I used to control nutrients. Mine was a 90 gallon and doing a 25 gallon water change every month required 2 brute cans with dollies and a pump to put water back into the tank and to pump discarded water someplace.
Once I set up my 1st sump with a refugium, I never went back except for nano tanks. Even my current tank, (56 gallon column) which was run as an AIO for a while now has a 30 gallon sump that doubles as a fuge. Because of that I am able to keep 13 fish and softie coral and I do not run a skimmer.

 

[Ryan4485]

I agree with Tamberav. I have had several AIO tanks in my earlier years (although mine had HOB filters and skimmers rather than the built in compartments for those components). My versions were definitely less clean and tidy looking but I could access them easily and I could tailor their size for my fish load. Even so, big water changes was the primary tool I used to control nutrients. Mine was a 90 gallon and doing a 25 gallon water change every month required 2 brute cans with dollies and a pump to put water back into the tank and to pump discarded water someplace.
Once I set up my 1st sump with a refugium, I never went back except for nano tanks. Even my current tank, (56 gallon column) which was run as an AIO for a while now has a 30 gallon sump that doubles as a fuge. Because of that I am able to keep 13 fish and softie coral and I do not run a skimmer.

How often do you need to do a water change with a sump system? and what percentage?

 

[vlangel]

How often do you need to do a water change with a sump system? and what percentage?

A lot of that depends on your system (which could be influenced by whether you are using live rock or dry rock) and the bioload that the fish are putting on it. A new tank needs more water changes under almost all circumstances, I would do a 5 - 10% weekly water change on any new tank, sumped or AIO. However, after a year or 2, a sumped tank with a refugium where pod population can grow without being preyed upon, the percentage of the water change can lower and maybe even the frequency depending on how stable the system is and how finicky the creatures you are keeping are. Generally tanks with sps, especially acros are more delicate and need more attention in general. My system on the other hand is mostly soft sturdy coral and easy to care for fish so I do about a 4 gallon water change weekly on an 80ish gallon system. If I miss a week, (which is rare) I do not worry about it but my tank is 6 years old with rock from the late 90s so it is very established. Part of the reason I am faithful with the water change is to replenish trace minerals and such since I find testing tedious. An aquarist with a stable established sumped system could probably dose and test and then do even less water changes.
I hope this helps you decide what is right for you. A lot of it is knowing what your strengths and weaknesses are as an aquarist and setting up your tank accordingly.

 

[Ryebreadiest]

Given how popular AIO tanks are, especially the Innovative Marine ones, you should have no issues meeting reasonable filtration needs. Plenty of people have banging reef tanks with nothing more than a simple skimmer, filter floss, a little carbon and water changes. Going with an AIO will probably even save you money as you won’t have room for questionably useful extra gadgets…

 

[Ryan4485]

A lot of that depends on your system (which could be influenced by whether you are using live rock or dry rock) and the bioload that the fish are putting on it. A new tank needs more water changes under almost all circumstances, I would do a 5 - 10% weekly water change on any new tank, sumped or AIO. However, after a year or 2, a sumped tank with a refugium where pod population can grow without being preyed upon, the percentage of the water change can lower and maybe even the frequency depending on how stable the system is and how finicky the creatures you are keeping are. Generally tanks with sps, especially acros are more delicate and need more attention in general. My system on the other hand is mostly soft sturdy coral and easy to care for fish so I do about a 4 gallon water change weekly on an 80ish gallon system. If I miss a week, (which is rare) I do not worry about it but my tank is 6 years old with rock from the late 90s so it is very established. Part of the reason I am faithful with the water change is to replenish trace minerals and such since I find testing tedious. An aquarist with a stable established sumped system could probably dose and test and then do even less water changes.
I hope this helps you decide what is right for you. A lot of it is knowing what your strengths and weaknesses are as an aquarist and setting up your tank accordingly.

That was extremely helpful. Thank you so much for that response! I'd love to see a picture of your tank sometime. I wish I would have gotten a bigger tank but my son really just wanted a clownfish (he is 4). And now that I am learning more I am thinking about a bigger system. Maybe something big enough for a blue tang.

 

[Ryan4485]

Given how popular AIO tanks are, especially the Innovative Marine ones, you should have no issues meeting reasonable filtration needs. Plenty of people have banging reef tanks with nothing more than a simple skimmer, filter floss, a little carbon and water changes. Going with an AIO will probably even save you money as you won’t have room for questionably useful extra gadgets…

That is what I was originally thinking, however a lot of people really love their sumps...

 

[vlangel]

That was extremely helpful. Thank you so much for that response! I'd love to see a picture of your tank sometime. I wish I would have gotten a bigger tank but my son really just wanted a clownfish (he is 4). And now that I am learning more I am thinking about a bigger system. Maybe something big enough for a blue tang.

Here is a pic of my tank.