Advice on bioload (too many to quick?)

[Dinodanger]

How long does a 65g tank with rock and lots of bio media take to mature to the capacity of 5 two inch fish I have had problems with maintaining 0 ammonia for months atleast 4 types of bottled bacteria products with existing life rock from and old system and still I get ammonia spikes there’s no chlorine as I’ve used seachem prime (I do use 0tds rodi) I just don’t seem to be able to maintain zero ammonia I run Chaeto and a skimmer and feed only what the fish visably eat the ammonia will be gone for weeks then appear randomly I have done everything right as far as I know and had no issues on my first tank the only thing I can think of is adding fish to quickly which with the amount of bacteria I have added $200 worth shouldn’t be a issue am I rushing the bio load?
nitrates 25 ppm
Phosphates 0.1 ppm
Ammonia currently 0.25 or slightly below
Dkh 7.8
Ph:8
Fish load
One small yellow tang
One small clown
Royal gramma
Neon dottyback
Cleaner wrasse

 

[lapin]

What test kit are you using?
Seems more like a test kit error than something that can happen with a 4 month old tank with live rock. Unless you just added 5 fish at once. Even then the ammonia would only spike once.
Do you have a lot of rock?
Do you have a sand bed?
Canister filter?
Sump?


I see you posted this 2 x

How long does a 65g tank take to mature

How long does a 65g tank with rock and lots of bio media take to mature to the capacity of 5 two inch fish I have had problems with maintaining 0 ammonia for months atleast 4 types of bottled bacteria products with existing life rock from and old system and still I get ammonia spikes there’s no...

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[Dinodanger]

What test kit are you using?
Seems more like a test kit error than something that can happen with a 4 month old tank with live rock. Unless you just added 5 fish at once. Even then the ammonia would only spike once.
Do you have a lot of rock?
Do you have a sand bed?
Canister filter?
Sump?

I use Red Sea ammonia and the ammonia is defiantly there as I’ve got heavy breathing of the tang and used multiple test kits I didn’t add the 5 fish at once, I have a sand bed and a decent amount of dry rock that was cycled, I have a all in one so no sump just a drop off filter with poly filter carbon and a small sponge for particulates

 

[lapin]

Im at a loss then as to what is causing it
Perhaps someone else can guess

 

[Dinodanger]

What test kit are you using?
Seems more like a test kit error than something that can happen with a 4 month old tank with live rock. Unless you just added 5 fish at once. Even then the ammonia would only spike once.
Do you have a lot of rock?
Do you have a sand bed?
Canister filter?
Sump?


I see you posted this 2 x

How long does a 65g tank take to mature

How long does a 65g tank with rock and lots of bio media take to mature to the capacity of 5 two inch fish I have had problems with maintaining 0 ammonia for months atleast 4 types of bottled bacteria products with existing life rock from and old system and still I get ammonia spikes there’s no...

www.reef2reef.com

I edited it I didn’t realise that it would post twice

 

[brandon429]

if you had ammonia issues your fish would be dead, fish disease in the specific fish is most likely here.

ammonia can never hover in place, it either climbs to toxicity due to lack of surface area or it remains in the thousands ppm per seneye.

these non seneye testers...anytime they start showing a continued reading that doesn't change, that's their bottom end of report/ they cant report a zero bc there is no zero for ammonia in reefing its all thousandths ppm, below their detection zone. fish disease, look for that in your fallow and QT protocols.

if you reported: all my fish died at once and the water is cloudy, Id suspect a spike of something. not because a non seneye tester said it.

we already know your tank can handle your bioload by what you typed, no testing needed.
all fish die in any system within 2 days if there isn't enough surface area and or bac. you're in the clear regarding cycle. fish disease preps? takes medical precision. add one snail or coral frag from a non fallow system/undo 100% of disease prevention protocols.

 

[brandon429]

post a tank pic, we do well off proofing cycles from tank pics.

 

[Dinodanger]

post a tank pic, we do well off proofing cycles from tank pics.

That won’t help sorry I’m in a long black out to kill Dinos and raise nutrients being battling Dinos for months also this tank really isn’t working out tbh

 

[brandon429]

its ok the step isn't needed, your cycle is safe and set. any tank that had time to develop dinos has the max fish carrying capacity it will ever have. waiting longer does not add more bac.