AF Zeolites while using a BP Reactor

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Perry thanks to @Tbabcock I was able to get my hands on some Life Bio Fil. So now. How much of it do I run and at what flow rate? In addition what flow rate should I have going through the zeolites when using them in their own reactor with it's own feed line?

Thanks,

Adam
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I will let Perry chime in but i started with just about 4 cups or 1000ml. Then you just change out about 10% in 6 weeks. I made a media basket and stuck it in my fuge but i think i seen a post from Perry that he now has it in a reactor.
 
Hey sorry guys, the media like siporax, matrix, or yes, AF Bio Fil is that they can be placed passive, active, in media box, in media bags. It is a very similar material to matrix, pomice or pumice, if you will. The AF Life Bio Fil comes pre-loaded with bacteria, so this begins to work very quickly, versus weeks and weeks like other medias. The amount you run is up to you, like other biological media, it goes the distance, and can you really ever have enough? But, on the directions, it is 1 liter per 400 liters, in a good flow area, to be replaced by 10-20% replaced every 6 weeks. I have 2 liters running in a TLF 550 reactor with good flow. I also use 5 liters of siporax in the AF 150 reactor. Bio Fil is hard to find right now, mainly because of the demand, and production time. Probably as we get into the new year, it will become more available. Yes Europe seems to have more available.

@Adamc13o3
"How much of it do I run and at what flow rate? In addition what flow rate should I have going through the zeolites when using them in their own reactor with it's own feed line?"

When I started use of Zeo Mix, there was really no instructions, so I mimicked the flow recommendations of Zeovit. I now use the stack method, so I set the flow rate until Phosphate Minus tumbles. I would start with matching the gph to the amount of media. If you use a liter, probably good around 100gph. You could of course do your own experiment and measure nutrients and how they test with less versus more flow. This is copy paste off AF Website. " There is no need to shake zeolites. We recommend to keep Zeo Mix in for example Media Reactor in good water flow: 300-500l/h."

Have a great weekend Adam!
 
Of the ABVE which are known to have a higher nutrient load? I ask because when I started dosing my nutrients increased pretty quickly. I did do a full dose when I should have done half and I wasn't at zero NO3 and PO4 so I am not blaming the products just wanted to know. Do I need to wait to hit zero no3 and po4 before I start dosing ABVE?


Thanks,

Adam
 
Perry,

Of the ABVE which are known to have a higher nutrient load? I ask because when I started dosing my nutrients increased pretty quickly. I did do a full dose when I should have done half and I wasn't at zero NO3 and PO4 so I am not blaming the products just wanted to know. Do I need to wait to hit zero no3 and po4 before I start dosing ABVE?

Thanks,

Adam
 
I would think only Amino Mix and Energy would be the ones that would cause nutrient issues if unused or absorbed. This is why you really want to start half dose or even less and make observations and test for N&P.
 
Adam,
Start now, you do not have to have bottomed out nutrients to use, it should not really impact them greatly, especially after 1/2 dose. Just take it slow, and look for health in corals. I run 2.5-5 ppm NO3 and 0.02-0.06 PO4 with outstanding color results :)
 
I've been dosing everything based on 270G of water. I did increase the np pro and pro bio s to 14 drops daily. My ntirient levels are just where I want them at this point. Is there any downside to increasing the dosage on the pro bio s and np pro since it got me to where I want to be ? I have been playing this all as much by site and testing. I was using the 1 drop per 27 gallons as a starting reference point. I know the probiotic system isn't in full effect though as the zeolites and siporax have only been on for 2 to 3 weeks. I also got some of the larger pond size siporax which I will add. Like you said you can't ever have too much biological media :)
 
Perry I have been doing NP Pro and Pro Bio S for a month now and have also been doing 15% weekly WC for 2 months now. I have not noticed and reduction in NO3. I have 12L of siporax, 2.5L of zeolites and 2.5L of Life Bio Fil. I am also running GAC and Phosban. What do you recommend doing. I started doing at 10 drops based on 270G water volume. I am now at 20 drops as of today and was previously dosing 16 drops for the last week. Am I missing something or still too soon? It's been a month and I haven't missed a dose. I have also been dosing ABVE at 5 drops and doing it every other day alternation 2 like you recommended.

Thanks,

Adam
 
Stay the course, it can take time to transition, make sure corals still look ok, eventually the siporax will settle in with bacteria. Make sure skimmer is pulling dry. Other than that, just the normal.
 
Thanks Perry i'll keep at it. I just rinsed off the siporax and while I was doing a WC. All of the medias including the zeolites and AF were dry for like an hour. Is that an issue? I think I am going to try to figure out a way to run the siporax in a basket because it accumulated a lot of detritus. Just have to figure out how to make some room.
 
Perry,

If I ran the zeolites with Vinegar would this work? Essentially the NP Pro and Pro Bio S are a bacteria and carbon source to feed it that then colonize on the zeolite stones if I am understanding this correctly. So If I wanted to run the stones and dose Vinegar as the carbon source so I known more precisely exactly how much I am dosing in my tank and can adjust to its needs with more precision would this work? In addition a little off topic but when dosing a carbon source like Vinegar or Vodka must one also add bacteria to the tank to consume to carbon or will the existing bacteria in a mature system just repopulate at a fast enough pace to consume the carbon and not have a carbon overload causing cyan and or other nuisances?


Thanks,

Adam
 
Hey Adam,
I am not sure what would happen with vinegar additions, mainly because the carbon source AF uses is not based with acetic acid, it is a liquid polymer. I would just use caution if you feel that this is something you want to try. And yes, from my experience, VSV in order to work best would still need bacteria strains. Let me know your course and how it works for you, we are always learning, and that is what drives the hobby :)
 

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