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Can anyone give me optimum settings for the HD's. For whatever reason , all the searching I am doing I am yet to see a screen shot of what someones Settings are that they find to work. Currently have a 120 Gallon with SPS and LPS corals.
 
From all the research and trial and error I've done, I found that a 20K color temp will give great color but moderate growth, and 14K color temp will give really good growth and OK color. I wrote to AI and they say for the Hydras a 2:1 ratio of blues to white will give you a 20K color temp and a 1:1 or 1:0.75 ratio of blues to white will give you a 12K to 14k color temp.
So I setup my profile to do both. I use a 3 hr ramp for sunrise, and a 2 hr ramp for sunset. Peak power on the blues/violet is 8 hrs, and I have the whites and UV peak for 5 hours in the middle to simulate height of the sun mid day. My sunrise ramp and first 1.5 hours is 20K then it slowly transitions to 14K for 5 hours, then transitions back to 20K the last 1.5 hrs and the sunset ramp.
I have 4 26's over a 60" tank set 12" AWL. Here is my full profile to give you a better idea.
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Hope this is helpful.
 
From all the research and trial and error I've done, I found that a 20K color temp will give great color but moderate growth, and 14K color temp will give really good growth and OK color. I wrote to AI and they say for the Hydras a 2:1 ratio of blues to white will give you a 20K color temp and a 1:1 or 1:0.75 ratio of blues to white will give you a 12K to 14k color temp.
So I setup my profile to do both. I use a 3 hr ramp for sunrise, and a 2 hr ramp for sunset. Peak power on the blues/violet is 8 hrs, and I have the whites and UV peak for 5 hours in the middle to simulate height of the sun mid day. My sunrise ramp and first 1.5 hours is 20K then it slowly transitions to 14K for 5 hours, then transitions back to 20K the last 1.5 hrs and the sunset ramp.
I have 4 26's over a 60" tank set 12" AWL. Here is my full profile to give you a better idea.
ImageUploadedByREEF2REEF1470713795.463976.jpg

Hope this is helpful.

Thanks man. Corals dont seem to happy lately and I dont see much growth lately and a few are showing signs of bleaching. Not sure if its just light or a combo. I feel mine are up too high, so I have turned them down some.
 
Thanks man. Corals dont seem to happy lately and I dont see much growth lately and a few are showing signs of bleaching. Not sure if its just light or a combo. I feel mine are up too high, so I have turned them down some.

Just out of curiosity, what are your current settings?
 
I got some diatoms starting in the sand. Corals not all opening. Levels seem ok so I'm at a loss
 
Hmm. The reason that I ask is because I was running 2 52HD's over my 4' 120 at quite a bit less intensity than yours with good results.
My results may have been quite different due to changing from less than full spectrum LEDs and also the limited length of time used.
I only used 2 for a month with excellent results (compared to my previous lights) and then changed to 4- now my corals are angry again because I was too aggressive with my settings. I was running 2 lights around 60 watts each.
I will see if I can find my old settings but how long have you been using the 52's at the intensity you listed? Did you change lighting recently or have you been using these a while? Are you running an ULNS?
Sorry about all the questions but my old settings might be useless to you depending on the answers you provide.
 
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This is where I am now. Turned the uv down a little
UV has to be increased very slow, I set mine to what is above then put the UV channel in 50% acclimation mode for 3 months to get to that final level. UV helps with the more fluorescent pigments because the corals use them like a sun screen. But they produce them very slowly, and UV has no impact on growth.
I would also make sure your lights are high enough off the water. As you can see, I have my channels cranked up pretty high, bit at 12" AWL, I get a nice 300-330 PAR at 6" deep, 250-275 at 12", 200-225 at 18", and 150-175 on the sand 24". So not crazy high but everything is pretty happy. And yes, I have a PAR meter. :)
As other posts mention, what are your params including nutrients? And what kind of flow is in your tank? Could be other factors besides lighting.
 
I had some black boxes prior. Been running the Hydra's for about 2.5 months. Everything was happy until about a week ago. Not sure what happened, other than I added a few fish so it might just be balancing. I did catch the Lemon Peel angel nipping at a few softies, I have since set the fish trap and need to get him out. I knew it was a mistake putting him in the first place. Other than that I dont know why the corals dont look as happy. I test every other day and my levels look stable other than calcium a little low. I have since upped the dosage. It was at 390 when I tested at the end of the day. Been running at 420.
 
UV has to be increased very slow, I set mine to what is above then put the UV channel in 50% acclimation mode for 3 months to get to that final level. UV helps with the more fluorescent pigments because the corals use them like a sun screen. But they produce them very slowly, and UV has no impact on growth.
I would also make sure your lights are high enough off the water. As you can see, I have my channels cranked up pretty high, bit at 12" AWL, I get a nice 300-330 PAR at 6" deep, 250-275 at 12", 200-225 at 18", and 150-175 on the sand 24". So not crazy high but everything is pretty happy. And yes, I have a PAR meter. :)
As other posts mention, what are your params including nutrients? And what kind of flow is in your tank? Could be other factors besides lighting.

I do not have a Par meter, but my nutrients are Ammonia 0, Nitrate runs .03--0, Phospate 0, calcium was just tested to be low 380, usually runs 420, alk 12.5, ph 8.1. I have been adding "energy" supplement but other than than nothng new. Feed corals 2 times a week spot feed and fish get one cube a day and I hang Nori for the 2 tangs daily.
 
I do not have a Par meter, but my nutrients are Ammonia 0, Nitrate runs .03--0, Phospate 0, calcium was just tested to be low 380, usually runs 420, alk 12.5, ph 8.1. I have been adding "energy" supplement but other than than nothng new. Feed corals 2 times a week spot feed and fish get one cube a day and I hang Nori for the 2 tangs daily.
The Calcium is fine at 380... But your Alk is pretty high, especially for basically no nutrients. I run a pretty consistent 5 ppm nitrate and my Alk is 8.2, phosphate is not detectable but I add some everyday with the frozen food because I don't rinse it.
You can feed heavier and bring nitrates up that way. Or if you want to run ULNS then consider dosing aminos. The advantage of aminos vs. photo or zoo plankton is aminos get absorbed from all parts of the coral, plankton only from the polyps. Corals also need to already be in good health to feed as the act of feeding itself requires energy. So if they are in poor health then aminos can help them recover. I personally use the korallen zucht amino concentrate for a few weeks any time I add any newly fragged corals or any time the corals aren't looking bright and colorful enough.
 
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Here is what I am running my 26 HD's at
 
I have a mixture of hydras to hd primes and 26s. I had my settings near lenny s. With the exception of my white channel being much lower. I was excited to raise my lights up and raise the whites. I love it.

Hopefully jumping the whites up 40 % isnt terrible. Ill keep my eye out. I expect increased growth.
 
I have a mixture of hydras to hd primes and 26s. I had my settings near lenny s. With the exception of my white channel being much lower. I was excited to raise my lights up and raise the whites. I love it.

Hopefully jumping the whites up 40 % isnt terrible. Ill keep my eye out. I expect increased growth.
Glad to hear you like the settings I posted. If you are increasing just the white channel, you can use acclimation mode on that one channel and set the percentage reduction so the current output matches what you have now after you do the increase. Then just let it automatically adjust over at least the next 30 days to the higher level. The slower the better to allow the corals to adjust.
 
Im going to do that right now. Im all about more power. I see a lot of people running low power on these lights and i just dont get why.

Let mme borrow that oar meter realquick. K? Lol
 
Im going to do that right now. Im all about more power. I see a lot of people running low power on these lights and i just dont get why.

Let mme borrow that oar meter realquick. K? Lol
I agree, I think a lot of the folks that run at reduced power on LEDs just have them too close. If you look at the Radion Coral Lab, they mount their lights 2 feet above the water.
I originally had mine on the AI Classic Rails, that only put them about 8" above the water. When I took PAR measurements under the light 6" below the surface I got 400 PAR even though I was only running the lights at 70%. But as little as 6" off center from the light it would drop almost 100 PAR. With the lights 12" above the water and cranked up like I have them, I get 350 PAR directly under the light, but it only drops to 300 PAR directly between 2 lights. So the distribution is much more even and there aren't any hot spots.
I see a lot of posts around channel settings, I was one of them... very focused on the % of the channels. When I got the PAR meter and took my first reading and saw how bad the hot spots were, my attention shifted to the distribution of the light and the height of the fixtures.
In fact, I ran for a long time with just a couple of 1"x4" blocks of wood under the legs of the classic rails.
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But wasn't feelin the look ;) so went with the AI hanging kit
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Much nicer:)
 
I run mine 100% Uv troyal cranked to 120% blues 100 , red and green turned down white is at 85% I also have 2 80 watt T5 I started like this from the get go and have had no problems over a standard 210 growth is great color is great . I'd put a shot of it on here if I knew how lol. Oh and 2 52 Hd and 1 26 soon to add another 26 and both 26's in the middle at about 14 inches above water . Spread is good but I could use the 4th light
 

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