Aiptasia/Hydroid/Mystery Creatures Problem

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I apologize in advance for how long this post may be. I am going to try and give all the information I currently have to try and deal with these problems.

I either have a serious problem with hydroids, aiptasia, or both. I have about 4 different kinds of ...creatures that I am having trouble with. 3 I am pretty sure are hydroids, the 4th is a bit of a mystery.

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These are what I call the brown/purple ones. When they start of they are almost clear with very faint coloration. As they get older and bigger they get the purple/brown hues. They appear to have a mouth of some sort and will grab pellets/frozen food and eat it. They will be either in the sand or on rocks (and even on my fake reef). When in the sand, if disturbed they will fully retract into the sand and can no longer be seen. If in the rocks, they do the same thing, into a nook/cranny. As they get larger they start to either have sand stuck to their trunks or something, either way, white dots start appearing on their trunks. It seems they may be in close relation to aiptasia as I am able to use a majano wand on them. Last night I used the M.W. on some in the sand and I was able to stun them and worked them out of the sand, as when they contract they become hard so it is like fishing a rock out of the sand. I am not sure how they reproduce, but they do, as I easily have over 60+ of them now, ranging in sizes. I would say the largest I have seen would be, as fully “openedâ€, 6-8mm across and almost 9mm tall. They do not seem to care about light or flow too much. I have some under arches and some right on the sand bed in direct light and flow. These are always a single “polypâ€. They also seem to be able to go anywhere, I have some living in the overflow just stuck to the glass, some have made their way under the silicone in the overflow. Their base is almost like a foot of an anemone.

These are the white ones. They resemble a white stick with white hairs protruding mostly from the top. They are tiny, only a few millimeters tall, and only 1mm wide. These seem to prefer the sand (small rocks) and bases of rocks and the fake reef. These will catch food and somehow eat it (no idea how they do it). I believe these to be some type of colonial hydroid as I rarely see them singular. Other than the brown/purple creature, these are my other worst enemy right now. They can inhabit the smallest rock/grain on sand, and are spreading onto the main rocks themselves and onto the fake reef base. There is a patch of sand in the back of the tank that has been taken over by these.

Brown hydroids. I believe these are your “typical†brown hydroid. These develop in small patches. I only have about 5 patches that I know of. These do not seem to be too much of a problem, yet. They take a lot of work to remove. Their tubes they live in are difficult to grab or scrape off.

Freaky white/clear ones. I have had these a long time, but have never posed a great threat, (again, yet). They have clear/whitish tubes with white spots/sand and lots of clear tentacles. Majano wand is hard to use on these, but they are in semi-close resemblance to the brown/purple creatures.

Other information; I have a copperband butterfly currently in QT, but has not started eating frozen yet so has not been released into the tank. I wanted this fish anyway, but I am also hoping she might help with these issues. I also have a black sea cucumber starting to work on the sand. I have no idea if he will have any affect on the white hydroids when he gets to those areas, but I thought it was worth a try. I do overfeed, and may be part of the problem. I currently like my feeding regimine and once my tank is fully stocked, there will not be so much overfeeding. I do water changes once a week, 15-20% with IO RC. I have also seen the "typical" semi star shaped hydroid jellyfish on the glass. Please let me know if you need any more information.

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Purple/Brown;


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This one below grew completely inside the silicone so I managed to get a sort of side/inside view


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These are some I managed to stun and remove from the sand bed. They are living in a cup of tank water at the moment.


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Yep. Aiptaisa and hydroids. . The one on the glass on the last pic is a hydroid also. The copperband may help but like anything else it's hit or miss. My copperband wiped out my aiptasia and hydroids. It only survived a few months then the aiptasia came back.
 
If the CBB fails, the usual aiptasia rememedies should work on the brown/purple ones? I originally was going to get some of the aiptasia nudi's but then someone told me it might be hydroids, so I held off.
 
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I've never tried nudis so I'm not sure. My CB took out my hydroids and they haven't come back. I also noticed that using coral foods like Reef Chili and Coral Frenzy seemed to fuel the hydroids. When I stopped feeding those foods the hydroids died off some too.
 
Unfortunately peppermint shrimp do not last long in my tank. They also never helped either =/
 
I've never tried nudis so I'm not sure. My CB took out my hydroids and they haven't come back. I also noticed that using coral foods like Reef Chili and Coral Frenzy seemed to fuel the hydroids. When I stopped feeding those foods the hydroids died off some too.

100% spot on!! I stopped feeding Coral Extacy (Powder) and my Digitate Hydroids are all but gone. I see maybe 1 left out of at least 50.
 
What were ID'd as hydroids in my tank kinda squirted around like tiny jellyfish. I haven't seen any like yours. Mine died out pretty quickly after my greenwater bloom was resolved. The first several photos are absolutely aiptasia (or majanos, not sure what the difference is.)

I'm working on getting some berghia nudis to nuke a nasty invasion of aiptasia, myself.

From what I was told, hydroids are only dangerous to very sensitive animals, like seahorses.
 
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Well I do have pipefish, they seem to be okay though. They really are just unsightly and growing to plague proportions. I don't really worry about the brown or the weird clear ones, they seem to moderate themselves. It's those white ones that are taking over.
 
An update on this. I ordered 10 berghia nudibranch's. I kept seeing them on the glass at night and I would put them near the creatures and they would turn the other way. I have not seen any in a while and no sign of creatures being eaten. I am almost positive all the creatures are hydroids at this point. I stopped feeding the smal particle coral food. I almost had my CBB but had to return her because she was sick, so she wont be ready until sometime next month.
Does anyone have any other ideas/solutions for hydroids other than a CBB? Especially if it isn't a fish. If the CBB doesn't do the trick I think I may need to break down the tank and re-start because everything is infested with both purple/brown hydroids and the white hydroids.
 
We had some in our tank that started on a small Paly rock and somehow they ended up across our tank on a rock covered in Zoas and Palys. We didn't know what it was and lost several polyps. Later on we found them on one of our Duncans they totally took it over and we had to throw it out. We found some on another Duncan so we took it out, scrubbed the areas with a soft toothbrush, covered in Aiptasia X and put it back in. Some still remained, so we repeated but covered in superglue and it got rid of them and it's as healthy as can be now. The Duncan used to be on this one rock, so we took it out..scrubbed and covered areas in Aiptasia X and superglue then put it back in. We also threw out the Zoa/Paly rock because we lost so many and the rest just never looked as good. Our tank as far as we know is hydroid free and the problem areas look great and Duncan look awesome!
 
We had some in our tank that started on a small Paly rock and somehow they ended up across our tank on a rock covered in Zoas and Palys. We didn't know what it was and lost several polyps. Later on we found them on one of our Duncans they totally took it over and we had to throw it out. We found some on another Duncan so we took it out, scrubbed the areas with a soft toothbrush, covered in Aiptasia X and put it back in. Some still remained, so we repeated but covered in superglue and it got rid of them and it's as healthy as can be now. The Duncan used to be on this one rock, so we took it out..scrubbed and covered areas in Aiptasia X and superglue then put it back in. We also threw out the Zoa/Paly rock because we lost so many and the rest just never looked as good. Our tank as far as we know is hydroid free and the problem areas look great and Duncan look awesome!

Yeah it seems I may end up having to resort to re-doing the tank. The sand, rock, fake reef, some of the coral plugs, overflow, sump are all infested.
 
Yeah it seems I may end up having to resort to re-doing the tank. The sand, rock, fake reef, some of the coral plugs, overflow, sump are all infested.
I'm just glad we caught ours before they got way out of hand! We had some on our powerheads too, but we noticed that the hitchhiker limpets were saying them because they were disappearing without us touching them! We have several of those..not hundreds but enough to clean the powerheads :-). I'm so glad we got rid of them..we were worried!

Wishing you the best of luck! If all else fails..I guess you've gotta do what's best to get rid of them.
 
I'm just glad we caught ours before they got way out of hand! We had some on our powerheads too, but we noticed that the hitchhiker limpets were saying them because they were disappearing without us touching them! We have several of those..not hundreds but enough to clean the powerheads :-). I'm so glad we got rid of them..we were worried!

Wishing you the best of luck! If all else fails..I guess you've gotta do what's best to get rid of them.

It just sucks on so many levels. I have corals that are stuck on some of these rocks, even growing flesh on them. Not to mention all the cool critters that live in the rocks like peanut worms, tube/fan worms, etc. And it will be a HUGE ordeal.
 
It just sucks on so many levels. I have corals that are stuck on some of these rocks, even growing flesh on them. Not to mention all the cool critters that live in the rocks like peanut worms, tube/fan worms, etc. And it will be a HUGE ordeal.

Oh yeah it really does.... :-(
 
Unfortunately I have tried the wand, it is very hard to get all of the creature. I have a laser and I am not sure if it kills these guys or I need a stronger one, but I have tried that as well, thank you though.
 

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