Algae hair
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you need to lift out that rock, hand scrape it off and hit the cleaned areas with peroxide, its hand guiding. squirt liquid kent tech M on the cleaned spot if that sounds better. the cleanup tool doesn't matter, the hand scraping off does the job. like a dentist scrapes/rough handles our plaque.
There is no stage for algae, new or old. search the forums
we have 20 totally matured tanks across the forums right now with the same algae problem, only its on all rocks not one like yours, you have an interception point.
so, if you choose to leave it in the tank for X reason, expect that possible outcome. if you remove it, against all the rules, expect to have none.
Every problem algae thread on the internet was grown that way, on purpose, by that poster.
notice I didn't mention nutrients, clean up crews, lighting, all the bandwagon causes.
They have literally nothing to do with purposeful farming of algae. When you want to stop hand removing it, you'll control those better. The real irony on the threads is from those who were controlling the variables, and still got it, which is why hand removing solves all algae problems and everything else is a full bandaid/ nutrients, lights, snails etc are for growback control, not removal, which is the key to being algae free per the tanks that are perpetually algae free.
If you didn't remove it, and added some animal or some action taken on the nutrients, those sure might work. The hand removal removes the "might" part, can choose either way, farm it or don't farm it.
Reefs that are balanced and matured with total coralline coverage, and mostly coral coverage, naturally exclude that algae. its fair to say your tank is newer so the potential for algae is higher than after a few mos of hand guiding, but still that has nothing to do with purposefully farming algae and taking chances, it means you are busier the first sev mos guiding this out until biology does it for you.
I haven't treated my tank for algae problems to the live rock in 7 years, about that long. I have no clean up crew, don't know what nutrients are, and set the lights to my liking.
There is no stage for algae, new or old. search the forums
we have 20 totally matured tanks across the forums right now with the same algae problem, only its on all rocks not one like yours, you have an interception point.
so, if you choose to leave it in the tank for X reason, expect that possible outcome. if you remove it, against all the rules, expect to have none.
Every problem algae thread on the internet was grown that way, on purpose, by that poster.
notice I didn't mention nutrients, clean up crews, lighting, all the bandwagon causes.
They have literally nothing to do with purposeful farming of algae. When you want to stop hand removing it, you'll control those better. The real irony on the threads is from those who were controlling the variables, and still got it, which is why hand removing solves all algae problems and everything else is a full bandaid/ nutrients, lights, snails etc are for growback control, not removal, which is the key to being algae free per the tanks that are perpetually algae free.
If you didn't remove it, and added some animal or some action taken on the nutrients, those sure might work. The hand removal removes the "might" part, can choose either way, farm it or don't farm it.
Reefs that are balanced and matured with total coralline coverage, and mostly coral coverage, naturally exclude that algae. its fair to say your tank is newer so the potential for algae is higher than after a few mos of hand guiding, but still that has nothing to do with purposefully farming algae and taking chances, it means you are busier the first sev mos guiding this out until biology does it for you.
I haven't treated my tank for algae problems to the live rock in 7 years, about that long. I have no clean up crew, don't know what nutrients are, and set the lights to my liking.
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twilliard
Tank pests..
Thank you brandon this is a great response
The key to algae is to never introduce it to begin with and to treat the first signs once noticed.
its so against the grain to say that, few would agree
I simply don't know any other way that guarantees success, work hard until you earn no work. To have algae is to opt for the no work mode.
*the key fork in the road is knowing that it lessens as surfaces mature* its the notion of many that the work will never end, but it does, for sure when we begin to combine those lighting, nutrients and CUC changes over time. I can only see a tank ridden with algae as someone not knowing the alternative, or literally choosing against it out of fear of:
-disturbing bacteria
-causing some sort of instability (usually by kicking up filthy waste housed somewhere in the tank...a waste issue, not an algae issue etc)
-fear of wasting time (if I don't control nutrients, I cannot win)
I simply don't know any other way that guarantees success, work hard until you earn no work. To have algae is to opt for the no work mode.
*the key fork in the road is knowing that it lessens as surfaces mature* its the notion of many that the work will never end, but it does, for sure when we begin to combine those lighting, nutrients and CUC changes over time. I can only see a tank ridden with algae as someone not knowing the alternative, or literally choosing against it out of fear of:
-disturbing bacteria
-causing some sort of instability (usually by kicking up filthy waste housed somewhere in the tank...a waste issue, not an algae issue etc)
-fear of wasting time (if I don't control nutrients, I cannot win)
twilliard
Tank pests..
I know right LOLits so against the grain to say that, few would agree
I simply don't know any other way that guarantees success, work hard until you earn no work. To have algae is to opt for the no work mode.
*the key fork in the road is knowing that it lessens as surfaces mature* its the notion of many that the work will never end, but it does, for sure when we begin to combine those lighting, nutrients and CUC changes over time. I can only see a tank ridden with algae as someone not knowing the alternative, or literally choosing against it out of fear of:
-disturbing bacteria
-causing some sort of instability (usually by kicking up filthy waste housed somewhere in the tank...a waste issue, not an algae issue etc)
-fear of wasting time (if I don't control nutrients, I cannot win)
After months of culture transfer tests using GHA and bryopsis I can conclusively say this algae is not "naturally occurring" in our tanks.
Of course I did not study this until I met you!
I was one of those reef junkies who constantly battled algae, for YEARS.
Now after a year of study I can lay algae to rest. Never to appear again (no matter the DOC load)
twilliard
Tank pests..
Yes there are a few things that need to be written up but time is just one thing I do not have a lot of now. I always keep these subjects in my head for when I do have time!
