algea help

[Borgie234]

Does anyone know if 2 nero 5s would be enough for a 6ft long tank?

 

[brandon429]

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/s...r-a-full-rework-skip-cycle-reassembly.525310/

if you run your tank through that method, it comes out clean/new/skip cycle/ no invasion in one day. that thread is a buzz saw mill against invasions, we churn out straight clean aquariums. all else is kid gloving. its the type of aerobics class where when you show up you are expected to work

its a churn and burn clean tank producing machine, well oiled. I'm not downing any other possible method that might work by august, just saying this method works now.

 

[Fiesty]

I actually bought the tank off of someone and they gave me a mp40 how if doesn't seem to work right as it runs loud and get really hot.. I have heard there really good but havent been convinced that they are better then the maxspects. Which would be a cheaper option to get 2. I heard the rw15 and rw20 produce plenty of water movement but just seems to last as long. I knew I need the upgrade in flow but didnt know that the algae would be a symptom.

Turn on the mp-40 off the tank and with only the back (dry motor) part and no front. If its still loud then a problem with bearing, etc there and toast. If not, then clean the wet part in vinegar and see if gets better if not, u can order the wet part only and would be worth doing.

And there r many great brands out there so understand if u go with something different. Just trying to give u an example of flow rate per size of tank that seems to work well and hopefully u can match up to brand that fits the budget.

 

[Borgie234]

Turn on the mp-40 off the tank and with only the back (dry motor) part and no front. If its still loud then a problem with bearing, etc there and toast. If not, then clean the wet part in vinegar and see if gets better if not, u can order the wet part only and would be worth doing.

And there r many great brands out there so understand if u go with something different. Just trying to give u an example of flow rate per size of tank that seems to work well and hopefully u can match up to brand that fits the budget.

I think it bearings

 

[Saltyreef]

This looks like a diatom bloom. And by the look of your tank, its been just put online for less than 6 months. Even if it was a used setup, you likely started another cycle.
Does not look like cyano.
A sand rinse could help but mainly going thru your ugly stages until your bacteria colony stabilizes is the key.
Keep a good CUC and everything should balance out if you go slowly and dont make knee jerk changes. Every tank gets diatom blooms in the starting stages.

 

[Borgie234]

This looks like a diatom bloom. And by the look of your tank, its been just put online for less than 6 months. Even if it was a used setup, you likely started another cycle.
Does not look like cyano.
A sand rinse could help but mainly going thru your ugly stages until your bacteria colony stabilizes is the key.
Keep a good CUC and everything should balance out if you go slowly and dont make knee jerk changes. Every tank gets diatom blooms in the starting stages.

I starting to think that could be true as I picked up some turbo snails and there chopping away at it. From what I know nothing will eat cyano

 

[Borgie234]

I starting to think that could be true as I picked up some turbo snails and there chopping away at it. From what I know nothing will eat cyano

Tank is about 5 months old

 

[Saltyreef]

I starting to think that could be true as I picked up some turbo snails and there chopping away at it. From what I know nothing will eat cyano

If this is a used setup and the problem will not go away, you may want to give brandon429 's threads on sand rinsing a readover. Great stuff in there. I had some nasty sand in my tank that was an accumulation of over 6 years and no rinsing.
Had issues like this over and over. I decided to go bare bottom but after rinsing my sand and the amount of putrid stink i evacuated, im amazed and convinced this was the issue. the sand is sitting still wet in a tote in my garage. Been covered with a lid for a couple months now and still does not have any odor whatsoever.

 

[Borgie234]

If this is a used setup and the problem will not go away, you may want to give brandon429 's threads on sand rinsing a readover. Great stuff in there. I had some nasty sand in my tank that was an accumulation of over 6 years and no rinsing.
Had issues like this over and over. I decided to go bare bottom but after rinsing my sand and the amount of putrid stink i evacuated, im amazed and convinced this was the issue. the sand is sitting still wet in a tote in my garage. Been covered with a lid for a couple months now and still does not have any odor whatsoever.

The only part of my setup that has been used before was the equipment, which I clean well before using.

 

[Saltyreef]

The only part of my setup that has been used before was the equipment, which I clean well before using.

Even if adding new sand. The sand should be rinsed of silt and dust or it causes these issues 10 fold. After removing my sand my issues like this stopped and im actually finally able to grow coraline again. I believe rinsing and putting back in tank would have solved it just as well. I was on a bare-bottom mission though. My rinse water came out black. I couldnt even begin to describe the smell in any manner that would be appropriate. Food for my neussiance algae and unwanted bacteria to thrive before the beneficial bacteria colony no doubt.

 

[Alexreefer]

I have used @brandon429 sand rinse method and this helped out immensely. I have had a much easier time of controling my algae. Now a weekly water change and the tank is spotless for about 4-5 days. Go and check out the thread
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/the-official-sand-rinse-thread-aka-one-against-many.230281/
Feel free to ask him or me any questions.

 

[Borgie234]

So just to make sure I understand correctly, you guys would advise to take all of my sand out rinse it in tap water then put it back in?

 

[Saltyreef]

So just to make sure I understand correctly, you guys would advise to take all of my sand out rinse it in tap water then put it back in?

Tap first. Then after it comes out crystal clear, a quick rinse in RO/DI to remove the tap water contaminants.

 

[Saltyreef]

I would give brandon429 's threads a read over first. Just so its clear for you.

 

[Borgie234]

I will certainly do so as I did use the carribsea sand. But by me doing that isn't that going to stress the heck out of my fish and coral while taking it out and putting it back in and then killing any beneficial bacteria that was there?

 

[Borgie234]

if not kill them?

 

[Borgie234]

and would weekly siphoning of the sand do the same thing?

 

[Saltyreef]

Your BB colony is likely unstable if you are getting diatom blooms still. Your tank is fairly new and an easy turn around given you dont have many corals encrusting or much to disturb. In the past, i put all my fish and coral (lightly stocked) into a cheap 10 gallon petco fish tank for a week with a powerhead and ambient lighting while i was rinsing my sand. Get creative but read thru the threads and gather as much info as you can. At the end of the day, you need to rinse that sand no matter how it gets done, preferably with minimal disturbance but its your choice.
I decided to go the route of a small recycle as i did a lot at once. My tank did have WORSE GHA algae issues for about a month until most of the rockwork was done leaching phosphate after rinsing. I was prepared for it though. My rocks and sand were old.

 

[Alexreefer]

Your BB colony is likely unstable if you are getting diatom blooms still. Your tank is fairly new and an easy turn around given you dont have many corals encrusting or much to disturb. In the past, i put all my fish and coral (lightly stocked) into a cheap 10 gallon petco fish tank for a week with a powerhead and ambient lighting while i was rinsing my sand. Get creative but read thru the threads and gather as much info as you can. At the end of the day, you need to rinse that sand no matter how it gets done, preferably with minimal disturbance but its your choice.
I decided to go the route of a small recycle as i did a lot at once. My tank did have WORSE GHA algae issues for about a month until most of the rockwork was done leaching phosphate after rinsing. I was prepared for it though. My rocks and sand were old.

Well said.

 

[sstanley223]

I will certainly do so as I did use the carribsea sand. But by me doing that isn't that going to stress the heck out of my fish and coral while taking it out and putting it back in and then killing any beneficial bacteria that was there?

I wouldnt do it