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I tested my tank with Salifert and Kh Carer last night lights on; the carer showed 9.56 and Salifert 9.6. This morning no lights on Carer showed 8.24 and Salifert 8.3. My ? is is it because lights on increases Alk? How many tests a day should I do? I am guessing one with lights on and off but now I am thinking maybe midday as well.
 
What you experienced is normal since alkalinity lowers over time.

As for testing frequency, it is generally recommended to test alkalinity (and other parameters) at least once or twice a week to monitor and maintain stability. However, if you notice significant fluctuations or are actively adjusting alkalinity levels, it may be beneficial to test more frequently, such as testing once with lights on, once with lights off, and perhaps a midday test as you mentioned.

Regular testing allows you to understand the patterns and changes in your tank's parameters, enabling you to make necessary adjustments to maintain a stable and healthy environment for your corals and other inhabitants.

To streamline the testing process and automate alkalinity measurements, you may consider using a device like the ReefBot Lab. The ReefBot Lab offers accurate and precise testing capabilities, allowing you to conveniently monitor your tank's parameters. It eliminates the need for manual testing and provides reliable data to help you maintain optimal conditions for your reef aquarium.

If you have any further questions or need additional assistance, please feel free to ask.
 
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Lighting can indeed influence various parameters in a reef tank, including alkalinity. During the day, photosynthesis by corals and other photosynthetic organisms can lead to an increase in pH and subsequently elevate alkalinity levels. This explains the slightly higher alkalinity readings you observed with lights on. But what you experienced is normal since alkalinity lowers over time.

That's not true, unless you are adding alk all the while. The diurnal pH cycle does not impact alkalinity directly. It only impacts how fast alk is declining.

Photosynthesis only impacts CO2, and CO2 cannot ever directly have any effect on alkalinity, despite having an effect on pH.


Alkalinity Facts
There are several facts about total alkalinity that follow directly from the definition. Unfortunately, some of these have been misunderstood by some hobby authors.

One of these facts is termed The Principle of Conservation of Alkalinity by Pankow (“Aquatic Chemistry Concepts”, 1991). He shows mathematically that the total alkalinity of a sample CANNOT be changed by adding or subtracting CO2. Unfortunately, there is an article available on line, which claims otherwise, and encourages people to “lower alkalinity” by adding CO2 in the form of seltzer water. This is simply incorrect.

Forgetting the math for the moment, it is easy to see how this must be the case. If carbonic acid is added to any aqueous sample with a measurable alkalinity, what can happen?

Well, the carbonic acid can release protons by reversing equations 1 and 2:

(5) H2CO3 ==> H+ + HCO3–

(6) HCO3– ==> H+ + CO3—

These protons can go on to reduce alkalinity by combining with something that is in the sample that provides alkalinity (carbonate, bicarbonate, borate, phosphate, etc). However, for every proton that leaves the carbonic acid and reduces alkalinity, a new bicarbonate or carbonate ion is formed that adds to alkalinity, and the net change in total alkalinity is exactly zero. The pH will change, and the speciation of the things contributing to alkalinity will change, but not the total alkalinity.

This is not true for strong acids, however. If you add hydrochloric, sulfuric or phosphoric acids (or any acid with a pKa lower than the carbonic acid endpoint), there will be a reduction in the alkalinity.
 
That's not true, unless you are adding alk all the while. The diurnal pH cycle does not impact alkalinity directly. It only impacts how fast alk is declining.

Photosynthesis only impacts CO2, and CO2 cannot ever directly have any effect on alkalinity, despite having an effect on pH.


Alkalinity Facts
There are several facts about total alkalinity that follow directly from the definition. Unfortunately, some of these have been misunderstood by some hobby authors.

One of these facts is termed The Principle of Conservation of Alkalinity by Pankow (“Aquatic Chemistry Concepts”, 1991). He shows mathematically that the total alkalinity of a sample CANNOT be changed by adding or subtracting CO2. Unfortunately, there is an article available on line, which claims otherwise, and encourages people to “lower alkalinity” by adding CO2 in the form of seltzer water. This is simply incorrect.

Forgetting the math for the moment, it is easy to see how this must be the case. If carbonic acid is added to any aqueous sample with a measurable alkalinity, what can happen?

Well, the carbonic acid can release protons by reversing equations 1 and 2:

(5) H2CO3 ==> H+ + HCO3–

(6) HCO3– ==> H+ + CO3—

These protons can go on to reduce alkalinity by combining with something that is in the sample that provides alkalinity (carbonate, bicarbonate, borate, phosphate, etc). However, for every proton that leaves the carbonic acid and reduces alkalinity, a new bicarbonate or carbonate ion is formed that adds to alkalinity, and the net change in total alkalinity is exactly zero. The pH will change, and the speciation of the things contributing to alkalinity will change, but not the total alkalinity.

This is not true for strong acids, however. If you add hydrochloric, sulfuric or phosphoric acids (or any acid with a pKa lower than the carbonic acid endpoint), there will be a reduction in the alkalinity.
Thanks for the information! very valuable
 

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