Am I over doing it?

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hey there, long time aquarium keeper who recently switched to the salt water dark side. who would have known? just one hit, one tiny little frag tank.. and now...there is a 200gallon deep dimension in the driveway, a 4x8 sheet of acrylic soon to be sump in the garage, a giessemann aurora leaning on the kitchen table, a garbage can full of rock in bleach on the deck and pumps and fittings and, well, crap everywhere!

And somehow I am still married??

Anyways.. since I am relatively new to the reefing world (abouy a year). I thought i woukd bounce my designs for this tank set up off you guys and girls and see if you had any advice, or if you think what I am planning is entirely not neccessary.

So I have the 200g DD tank and it's going in the living room. it's a marineland tank (uggh..i know) so I cut out those awful corner overflows.

It has a closed loop system on it with one of those rotating drum diverters. Two of the outlets are on the back and I think im going to put two on the bottom as well.

I'm throwing a jebao 1500 on that system so with hydraulic head it will be around 2.5k gph. Is there any real advantage to having it come through the bottom of the tank? Say in the approximate middle 1/3 and 2/3? I thought I could hide it in the rock work.

I'm building an overflow box (I have built several acrylic aquariums... even my 240 fresh water). Going to mimic the ghost box or whatever it's called. Narrow skimmer box with teeth on the inside and plumb it directly to a rear overflow box with three pipes/beanimal setup.

Now the fun part.. I am going to run the drains and returns through the floor, down the finished basement joist bays, and into a sump and fuge in the basement. And here is where I thinj maybe I am going to far. I like growing sps and i have been moderately successful so far and i have always read volume breeds stability so I plan on having a 70 or so gallon sump with filter socks, skimmer and chaeto and then have the sump empty into a 100 gallon rubbermaid fuge under the sump.

Now that doesn't sound ridiculous does it? I was thinking of having my return pump (reeflo) connected to the fuge. So display tank>sump>simple gravity drain>fuge and then return pump.

Do I want to push that much water through the fuge? I am probably going to buy the reeflo barracuda so I will have PLENTY of flow. probably 2-3k to the main display and 2k to my 4x2x14 "lagoon / frag tank" which will sit next to the sump.

In my current system I have a small fuge with chaeto but it only recieves a tiny bit of flow from a t off my return pump.

Can you push too much flow through a fuge? I know I have read (in really old posts) about not pushing too much water through your sump as it is less efficient. (meaning your skimmer does not have "time" to process the water flowing through the sump) but as a physics buff, that really doesn't make sense to me. Your skimmer skims a certain percentage of water per hour which is independent of the flow through the sump.

Anyways.. any thought or suggestions for me?

Really looking forward to this build! The plumbing is going to be an absolute nightmare.. but still I am excited.
cheers!
 
my opinion would be fast flow through the sump as apposed to slower. it does make sense slower with more contact time with filtration but the way I see it the faster the display tank is getting detritus ex into the over flows and into filter socks skimmers filtration ex. the faster its getting it out of the display before it can find a place to settle. your skimmer will still perform weather its slow or fast but the heavy waste has a better chance of finding a home in the display than the sump IMHO
 
Closed loop systems have kind of gone out of style, why? For the amount of flow in any particular tank requires, demands a huge amount of power and electricity using closed loop to be efficient. This was a good idea long ago before wave pumps became powerful and cost effective.

Not many reefers use them because of this.
 
Closed loop systems have kind of gone out of style, why? For the amount of flow in any particular tank requires, demands a huge amount of power and electricity using closed loop to be efficient. This was a good idea long ago before wave pumps became powerful and cost effective.

Not many reefers use them because of this.
That is kind of a generalization. I think lots of people don't do close loop systems because they involve a lot of work upfront.

wavemakers are powerful, yes. Cost effective? ummmm... priced out a set of mp40's lately? Your laying down $600 for a set of them. The energy saved is what? 60 watts compared to a DC powered return pump? Not exactly going to make a dent in my power bill.

I use powershares in my frag tanks but i don't want a purple spotted plastic fan in my display tank... that is just me.
 

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