Am i overstalking my tank

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I am doing my first salt water tank and it will be a 75 gallon with the fluval fx4 canister filter. I am planning on putting in 4 clowns 3 chalk bass 3 bengaii cardinals 3 fire fish a flame angel and a pearlscale butterfly fish. Is this gonna be to many fish or just right? Also I have no idea what to do for a clean up crew. If I could get some specifics on what to do for a clean up crew r
that would be awesome. Thanks for the help
 
Too many and the bass will grow quickly
If you plan on coral, butterfly will be a no no
 
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If you stalk your fish to much, they might start to feel uncomfortable......


sorry I had to...
 
Yes, too many fish especially since your canister filter may not be effective enough to process a large bioload IME. I would wait on selecting a clean up crew until you can determine what needs to be cleaned up - they may starve if you don't provide appropriate "food." Good luck
 
Don't the bass only get to like 3 inches

OK what do you recommend then?
Remaining list will literally fill tank taking max size per fish
 
I would say the type/amounts of fish you have picked will be a problem.

Multiple pairs of clowns may fight, two bangaii may pair and kill the third, firefish don't always get a long in groups either. Not sure about the bass. Pearlscale will eat coral.

Saltwater tanks are not really community tanks like freshwater. Fish get territorial as adults. You need to really research and plan your additions.
 
I think you'll have a problem with 4 clowns as once they pair up, they will hunt down and kill the others unless you have a large amount of clowns or a very large tank. Others may have some thoughts but as mine grew out, paired up, they literally stalked the tank till I removed the survivors they didnt kill already. Add your fish slowly as well to avoid the ammonia spikes and clowns are excellent starter fish as they handle ammonia pretty well as they are closely related to damsels another great starter fish but also full of attitude like clowns
 
NAW It's ok, just stick a Marine Betta in there to keep everyone honest.
 
I would say do a little more reearch on your fish list, 3's and 4's of the same fishes usually dont do well. Its usually just one, or else a mated pair, or else you're looking at fish deaths.
 
Hahaha I really don't get it some times. I hear so many different things about everything in salt water. I just don't know what to believe
 
how many fish you can have is a subjective question.
The most important factor is habitat/aggression.
Do your fish have adequate space to swim, avoid each other, a home etc.
For specific pointers on your set stock list
-4 clowns probably won't work long term better just to go with 2.
-The cardinals will kill each other off down to 2 unless they are all 3 the same gender then they will kill each other off down to one. If you buy them in a store look for two swimming together that's probably a pair that will get along.
Honestly probably just skip them, bangaiis are super boring fish that mostly just float in place.
-Everyone says chalk bass are cool but no experience personally
-Google says that butterfly fish eats corals


2nd most important factor is nutrients. This is reef tank 200 level, but to simplify as much as possible the more fish, the more poop, the more poop the more ammonia, the more ammonia the more nitrogen, the more nitrogen the more food for corals and or algae.

I don't know if your keeping corals so I won't go more in depth.

A general rule of thumb is one snail or crab per 1 - 2 gallons of water. Although you won't need this many immediately.
If your keeping corals you'll want a more robust clean up crew. If your not keeping corals you'll want at least a small amount to eat uneaten food but beyond that its personal prefence. It might look ugly but Algae won't hurt anything in a tank without corals.



MOST IMPORTANTLY
Quarantine all your fish!!!!!!!!
 
Hahaha I really don't get it some times. I hear so many different things about everything in salt water. I just don't know what to believe
Yeah, worth studying the science behind maintaining an ocean like environment; anecdotes may not be based on long term experience/ careful observation, etc. Add to this the understanding that animals react differently to different environments, including tank mates, behavior may vary by individual, etc., and you want to proceed with caution. Then again, imo, these challenges are what makes the hobby so intriguing (and frustrating at times, lol).

Good luck
 
Hahaha I really don't get it some times. I hear so many different things about everything in salt water. I just don't know what to believe
If you are talking about me, I was being sarcastic. Do your research lol
 
Since I have a similar size tank, I agree with the responses here. I put 9 fish in mine and they're smaller type community reef fish. Everything seems balanced but not big enough for any more fish I should have bought a bigger tank.
 

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