Am I starving my fish?

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I’ve been in our hobby for over half a century. As many of you can relate, I have a sense about the health and well-being of my tank and its inhabitants. How do they look? How are they acting? It may very well be deceiving as we view these beautiful, colorful saltwater ocean creatures swimming in a well thought out and designed aquarium that we not even consider that they may not be getting enough food. How could that be? Everything looks fine. Looks in this hobby can be deceiving. We had friends come to dinner one night and of course stopping in front of my tank was a unique pleasure for our guests. They pointed out these beautiful small anemones. Small and delicate. They were sincerely impressed. I told them that these few little anemones were Aptasia anemones and I left it at that. Little did they know but my opinion of these little creatures was not a good one. Once a few Aptasias became 10 or 12, I purchased a Copper Banded Butterfly and soon the group of pests were gone.
This was the second CBB I had purchased. The first, years before just up and died. No apparent reason. I would soon begin to realize how important multiple feeding, daily were. I recently purchased four Sunburst Anthias. Anthias also need more food often than your common Damsel or Angel.
So then I had 3 fish that really needed special care. My other fish were fine with just a morning feeding. But now I felt compelled to feed both morning and evening.
I was initially concerned about higher nitrates being an issue. Extra nutrients feeding unwanted algae and more detritus. But again my better senses kicked in and knew that if I could mirror the balance of a coral reef in nature, I would not have this problem and be able to feed just the right amount without any adverse effects.
There is definitely a right amount to feed your fish. There is also too much food you can feed your fish and too little food you can feed your fish. Finding that happy spot is something every saltwater reef enthusiast must search for and find.
And here’s my conclusion: Look at feeding your tank as a science experiment. Start feeding more and watch carefully what happens. Test your water frequently. If things start to climb off the charts, back off. Test and observe. You know by now that everyones tank is different. From lighting to salt choices to number of fish and how often you do water changes, if you do them at all etc. etc. find that feeding “happy place” and stick to it. If you purchase 2 more fish consider increasing your feeding.
Common sense will tell you that reefers have lost fish because of over feeding and under feeding. My personal feeding schedule: 4 cubes in the morning, 4 cubes in the evening. 13 fish.
 
The anthias definitely need to be fed often, 2x is okay 3x better. Also the type of food is very important. Higher fat for more active fish which you can find in some pellet food such as TDO chroma boost but there are some frozen foods with high fat as well. Especially homemade foods.
 
I was a once a day feeder too, for many years,never an issue. But someone one time many years ago mentioned feeding more, and more frequently.

Well I bought an auto feeder, filled it up with TDO chromaboost, NLS, and NLS algaemax pellets. Like you I started and notice nutrients skyrocketing. Backed off a bit on the amount and frequency, fish are all happeir, no squabbling, reef is nice an healthy.

Since making this switch, I'm fully in the camp of heavy in, and heavy out. I've seen the experiment first hand, and you cannot have a happy healthy thriving reef without feeding it, and many times a day.
 
Wow 8 cubes a day! Lucky fish. I have an auto feeder set to feed small amounts of high quality pellets 3 times daily and I also feed half a cube per day I use about 4 diferent types and mix them up. 2 very healthy very mean clownfish that probably get some nutrition from all the bites they inflict on me also. They are healthy though and producing a clutch of eggs about once a month.
 
Great comments! FYI. Once or twice a week to add variety to their very meaty diet of Mysis or Enriched Brine Shrimp I feed one of 3 types of pellets that won at a contest at the last Reefapalooza. Also dried sea weed is always available for my three tangs.
 
so when you are referring to cubes are you talking the .5" cubes like San Francisco bay brand stuff?? i just trying to figure out how much were talking about?
 
All well and good but what is to be done when you feed a lot of food but some fish just don’t seem interested?
My Royal gramma is slowly fading away as he will only eat the odd bit of food. I just feed frozen, many different types.
 
so when you are referring to cubes are you talking the .5" cubes like San Francisco bay brand stuff?? i just trying to figure out how much were talking about?
Hikari brand. 3.5 oz. 32 cubes per pack. The standard size that most lfs sell
 
All well and good but what is to be done when you feed a lot of food but some fish just don’t seem interested?
My Royal gramma is slowly fading away as he will only eat the odd bit of food. I just feed frozen, many different types.
If your Royal Gramma is slowly fading away there is something wrong. Possibly an internal parasite or possibly an aggressor in the tank. Keep an eye that fish and what is going on. Those fish aren’t finicky eaters to my knowledge. Good luck bud.
 
Most people are way under feeding, that’s one of the main reasons people are having problems with CBB, moorish idols etc.

I feed a healthy amount of flakes/pellets 4 times a day, nori most days and 4-6 cubes of frozen every evening...and sometimes an extra feeding of angel formula or something like that during the day.
Many of the fish we keep are designed to constantly graze so to keep them healthy loads of food in required.
 
I have a 32gl nano with 3 fish (a bangaii, firefish and a blue damsel) 2 shrimp (cleaner and a pep) and lots of softies/lps and of course a cleaning crew.

I typically feed corals twice per week once with tlf reef snow and once with reef roids mixed with Phytochrom. I also supplement corals daily with Red Sea coral colors.

For the fish and shrimp I feed each every other day on an alternating schedule... shrimp one day, fish the next. I feed shrimp, oh and my tube anemone with shrimp pellets. The fish get frozen mysis soaked in selcon. Anytime I stray from this regimen my nitrates skyrocket... I recently starting adding Microbactr7 which seems to have helped keep nitrates at bay... but I often wonder if I am feeding enough.

btw I do not use a skimmer just carbon, purigen and high quality filter pads I change every two weeks and clean every week. And I change 5gl water every week. No algae issues at all, water is clear and metrics are stable. So am I feeding enough? As you stated, its misleading because everything looks OK ‍
 
It looks like you’re doing a great job. Having a 48 hour period of time between fish feedings is a bit much unless the tank is well established with live rock, pods, micro fauna etc. could you cut down the amount fed every other day and begin feeding daily?
 
If your Royal Gramma is slowly fading away there is something wrong. Possibly an internal parasite or possibly an aggressor in the tank. Keep an eye that fish and what is going on. Those fish aren’t finicky eaters to my knowledge. Good luck bud.
He was hiding for the first few months now out in the open, all he is interested in is making a nest, he constantly picks sand up and flicks it away, digging a hole, think it’s a mating thing.
 
He was hiding for the first few months now out in the open, all he is interested in is making a nest, he constantly picks sand up and flicks it away, digging a hole, think it’s a mating thing.
Spreading your food throughout the tank is also a great idea so that preoccupied fish like your RG have a better chance to eat. He also seems tobe doing a very natural thing. Contrast that with hiding up in the back corner of your tank. Cool
 
It looks like you’re doing a great job. Having a 48 hour period of time between fish feedings is a bit much unless the tank is well established with live rock, pods, micro fauna etc. could you cut down the amount fed every other day and begin feeding daily?
I already split my mysis cubes into 4 because when I was doing halves most of it fell and got stuck in the rocks before they could get to it... so I’d be leery to cut back even more. I have considered feeding the fish either a quality flake or pellet food on the days I feed my shrimp. This would give the fish a feeding every day. Anyone recommend a good high quality flake or pellet food? I used to have pods cause I always saw them in the filter area when I changed filters... but haven’t seen any lately. Maybe they ate them all because I don’t feed enough... should I consider adding some?
 
I already split my mysis cubes into 4 because when I was doing halves most of it fell and got stuck in the rocks before they could get to it... so I’d be leery to cut back even more. I have considered feeding the fish either a quality flake or pellet food on the days I feed my shrimp. This would give the fish a feeding every day. Anyone recommend a good high quality flake or pellet food? I used to have pods cause I always saw them in the filter area when I changed filters... but haven’t seen any lately. Maybe they ate them all because I don’t feed enough... should I consider adding some?
Hikari pellet seem to be a winner. I use 3 different types. Very nutritious. I won all 3 bags at Reefapalooza as prizes. Woo woo!
 
I feed my fish between 1 and 4 times a day. I got 5 fish. All adults. Emperor angel, orange spot rabbitfish, yellow tang, scopas tang, and a panther grouper.

They get 1/3 to a half sheet of nori per day, and a a half a tsp of .5mm algae pellets. Once or twice a week i feed the panther grouper a supermarket shrimp as well as the other fish. Occasionally ill feed a cube of brine shrimp.

I used to have no3 at 150ppm. But it dropped to 2.5ppm with the addition of a sulphur denitrator which i later removed. The no3 stayed at 2.5ppm althouhh i added a large uv and a big skimmer which may had something to do with it. My main problem is phosphate now which is between .34ppm to .54ppm.
 

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