I feel stupid asking this since Ive been keeping reef tanks for over 10 years. My 60 cube has been set up over 5 months, used live sand and already cured rocked from an established tank. Tank has been doing great but was getting a little algae buildup so I did a blackout over the weekend. Monday afternoon when I got home everything looked normal except some zoas and my bubbletip looked ticked. Chocked it up to the black out but did a 10 gallon water change anyway (tank is a 60 cube) Came home today and still looked bad so I tested my water and Im reading .25ppm on ammonia. I have not added anything in weeks and everything is accounted for even my large turbo snails. Any idea where this spike could of come from? Going to do another wc right now.
Ammonia Spike Question
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The thread here is the most unnecessarily excessive study of false ammonia reads i know of. It’s your answer x1000 points of overdone proof lol sorry I don’t deal in brevity that’s not as fun
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end result for you: your tank is fine needs no help on bacteria, it’s perfect. No reef tank in the world ever hit .25 for days, or hours. (Of course what matters is how we take readings. Digital ammonia vs color test, big difference)
how many aspects of marine chemistry are up for debate? not many. Pretty much any param you want to know about, a paper is written on it
but not ammonia, at .25, in a reef with living animals. No documentation from anyone across the web, so we made some. I posted my claim in the no 1 place on the planet people will chew up false info
awaiting counter claims. I take the lack of counter data as accepting my claim so far...that may change at any moment tho
We should use the collective power of the chem forum to prove or deny the possibility of sustained .25 ammonia in reefing
Why does it matter if reef tanks can have stuck cycles? Because when you move homes you don't want to lose animals, cycling science needs precision and predictability in order to protect our tanks. perhaps an emergency setup is needed, no wait time permitted or If you are invited to show...
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end result for you: your tank is fine needs no help on bacteria, it’s perfect. No reef tank in the world ever hit .25 for days, or hours. (Of course what matters is how we take readings. Digital ammonia vs color test, big difference)
how many aspects of marine chemistry are up for debate? not many. Pretty much any param you want to know about, a paper is written on it
but not ammonia, at .25, in a reef with living animals. No documentation from anyone across the web, so we made some. I posted my claim in the no 1 place on the planet people will chew up false info
awaiting counter claims. I take the lack of counter data as accepting my claim so far...that may change at any moment tho
My official take on the matter is no reef ever spiked to .25 and when it does, fish will be floating. Not everyone agrees with me the motivation behind stuck cycle claims from bottle bac sellers (sell more bottle bac) so if that's harsh then ignore and just consider seneye vs any other ammonia test
the number of reefs we cycle there without fail also matters. Our data is other people’s reefs, not dying.
the number of reefs we cycle there without fail also matters. Our data is other people’s reefs, not dying.
Also there’s a running bounty: 30 bucks PayPal to first poster who can link us a seneye or mindstream reading that hit .25 in any reef, new or old, and sustained it beyond half a day. Let’s see the logs, even if it’s a day one cycle with boosted ammonia awaiting bottle bac oxidation
i bet it cleared in 12 hours, if the tester is not api, seneye, nyos, red sea
we had a couple seneyes malfunction and they stuck at .001 or .02 and held every day at the exact level despite feeding, water changes etc and seneye responded on the actual thread the meter was bad. Even the malfunctioning ones didn’t hit .25 not ever not once.
how many non seneye readings show .2-.25 sustained
all of them
a clue detective can tell something is up when that much disparity exists between two points of chemical measure.
it is possible to spike your ammonia to .25 with straight a. chloride
but it will be oxidized within two hours back to norm, that’s how fast a reef with established rocks eats up ammonia. it is impossible to sustain a reading in the tenths in any reef tank
ammonia is by rule dynamic and never ever steady, by rule it’s always converting into nitrogen species in a cycled reef
ammonia either compounds to lethality (kidney failure in higher order animals) or it stays controlled.
.25 ammonia coursing through the veins two days kills any common animal, reefs included. Api made our whole hobby think lethal ammonia would have no effect in a reef. I bet seneye has five thousand clients, huge proofing sources now exist.
not a single one hits .25, bet.
i bet it cleared in 12 hours, if the tester is not api, seneye, nyos, red sea
we had a couple seneyes malfunction and they stuck at .001 or .02 and held every day at the exact level despite feeding, water changes etc and seneye responded on the actual thread the meter was bad. Even the malfunctioning ones didn’t hit .25 not ever not once.
how many non seneye readings show .2-.25 sustained
all of them
a clue detective can tell something is up when that much disparity exists between two points of chemical measure.
it is possible to spike your ammonia to .25 with straight a. chloride
but it will be oxidized within two hours back to norm, that’s how fast a reef with established rocks eats up ammonia. it is impossible to sustain a reading in the tenths in any reef tank
ammonia is by rule dynamic and never ever steady, by rule it’s always converting into nitrogen species in a cycled reef
ammonia either compounds to lethality (kidney failure in higher order animals) or it stays controlled.
.25 ammonia coursing through the veins two days kills any common animal, reefs included. Api made our whole hobby think lethal ammonia would have no effect in a reef. I bet seneye has five thousand clients, huge proofing sources now exist.
not a single one hits .25, bet.
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