Anthea disease Id
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IMHO, that looks like injury as opposed to disease. Infections are typically red, fungus is almost always white. What kind of heater is in the tank? I had a fish seeking cover in an empty tank snuggle up to the heater and burn himself pretty good.
The other possibility is run of the mill ulcers from poor water quality. ammonia and nitrates can weaken a fish and cause bacterial infections that show up as ulcers.
If it were my fish i would add a gentle antibcterial to the tank. something like melafix that would guard against infection.
People also net fish and swab the wound with hydrogen peroxide (which fyi is pretty harsh on the skin) or drip iodine on it to help kill bacteria.
The other possibility is run of the mill ulcers from poor water quality. ammonia and nitrates can weaken a fish and cause bacterial infections that show up as ulcers.
If it were my fish i would add a gentle antibcterial to the tank. something like melafix that would guard against infection.
People also net fish and swab the wound with hydrogen peroxide (which fyi is pretty harsh on the skin) or drip iodine on it to help kill bacteria.
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Chris155hp
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They are in a 40 gallon breeder quarantine tank. They have been in copper solution for about three weeks 0.5 cupramine. They were set to go into the DT after a round of prazi but want to get this under control first. Would there be Any negative affects of dosing your recommended medication of melafix in a tank with copper
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if it has been three weeks in copper, then ich is long dead by now. If your still worried then I would remove the fish into a bucket.
drain and rinse the tank with light bleach then refill and put the fish back in.
Do you have a source of bacteria in there? ergo.. a cycled tank? If not i bet that you have high ammonia or nitrite.. or both.
I would ditch the copper though.
drain and rinse the tank with light bleach then refill and put the fish back in.
Do you have a source of bacteria in there? ergo.. a cycled tank? If not i bet that you have high ammonia or nitrite.. or both.
I would ditch the copper though.
kind of off topic, but sound advice at any rate...
If you dont keep your QT up and running all the time..AND you are sure your DT is disease free, buy a pair of these and stuff them in your sump.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XRSS73F/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1
then if you need to set up a qt you have a nice, cycled filter to use. and they really aerate the water well
If you dont keep your QT up and running all the time..AND you are sure your DT is disease free, buy a pair of these and stuff them in your sump.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XRSS73F/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1
then if you need to set up a qt you have a nice, cycled filter to use. and they really aerate the water well
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+1 - could be bacteria, could be Uronema marinum.
Either way, Seachem's "Metroplex" is going to be one of your best friends. An Acriflavin bath followed up by in-tank treatment with Metroplex or Chloroquine Phosphate is a pretty good basic treatment for Uronema - unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a "great" treatment for Uronema at this time.
If a bacterial infection is suspected (and this particular lesion has a look that could be either one), in-tank treatment with a wide spectrum of antibiotics over a period of ten days or possibly more should bring relief. The combination of Furan-2, Kanaplex and Metroplex is one that has worked for so many folks around here that we often call it "the trifecta".
We've got some great in-depth posts by Humblefish on both topics -
Uronema: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/uronema-marinum.247940/#post-2913295
Bacterial infection: Read the link Drawman posted above!
~Bruce
Either way, Seachem's "Metroplex" is going to be one of your best friends. An Acriflavin bath followed up by in-tank treatment with Metroplex or Chloroquine Phosphate is a pretty good basic treatment for Uronema - unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a "great" treatment for Uronema at this time.
If a bacterial infection is suspected (and this particular lesion has a look that could be either one), in-tank treatment with a wide spectrum of antibiotics over a period of ten days or possibly more should bring relief. The combination of Furan-2, Kanaplex and Metroplex is one that has worked for so many folks around here that we often call it "the trifecta".
We've got some great in-depth posts by Humblefish on both topics -
Uronema: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/uronema-marinum.247940/#post-2913295
Bacterial infection: Read the link Drawman posted above!
~Bruce
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Agree.
Uronema would worsen to this state over a matter of a few days, as would the uncommon gram negative bacterial infections.
Most bacterial infections would look look like this much more slowly. How fast did this progress?
Here’s how to handle bacterial infections:
Bacterial infections:
Symptoms - Sometimes it's self-describing: Popeye/cloudy eyes, fin & tail rot, dropsy (bloated fish), etc. But some other bacterial infections, such as furunculosis, hemorrhagic septicemia, etc., can have varying visible symptoms. Any redness or open sores/wounds on a fish should be viewed with suspicion. Also, a white film or fungus-looking growth may denote a bacterial infection. It’s important to note that in many cases a bacterial infection is usually secondary in nature to a parasitic infestation such as ich, meaning if a fish has been battling ich for a while then his immune system has been lowered. This makes infection more likely for many opportunistic, harmful bacteria.
Treatment options - Broad spectrum antibiotic medication i.e. one that treats both gram-positive and gram-negative bacterial diseases. Examples of this include Furan-2, Kanamycin aka Seachem Kanaplex, Nitrofuracin Green Powder, Triple Sulfa Powder, or a combination of using both Erythromycin & Minocycline. The latter can be accomplished (albeit expensively) by using freshwater Maracyn 1 & 2 and then doubling the dosage for saltwater use. When battling a particularly nasty bacterial infection, combining Furan-2, Kanaplex and metronidazole (ex. Seachem MetroPlex) can be very effective (and safe). Props to “hedgedrew” for enlightening me of this.
excellent info guys!!
we are all pulling for your anthias! I have 12 in qt right now. maybe i will hit them with antibiotics at the end just to be safe
we are all pulling for your anthias! I have 12 in qt right now. maybe i will hit them with antibiotics at the end just to be safe
