It’s a cutler hammer panel so you’d have to read the fine print on the labels on the breakers themselves, but from the labels that I could read that said (garage gfi for example) it leads me to believe that your tank outlet is on a afci breaker which are NOTORIOUSLY over sensitive.
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It’s a cutler hammer panel so you’d have to read the fine print on the labels on the breakers themselves, but from the labels that I could read that said (garage gfi for example) it leads me to believe that your tank outlet is on a afci breaker which are NOTORIOUSLY over sensitive.
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Travis Stewart
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is There anything you can do about that?
The quickest and easiest solution would be to just replace with the same size amperage normal cutler hammer breaker (home depot or Lowe’s) and install a gfci outlet to run your tank. It does involve getting into your live panel, so if that’s not something your comfortable with, I highly recommend getting with your electrician of choice. The downside is we’re kinda expensive lol. UNLESS, you happen to know one who does side work
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The quickest and easiest solution would be to just replace with the same size amperage normal cutler hammer breaker (home depot or Lowe’s) and install a gfci outlet to run your tank. It does involve getting into your live panel, so if that’s not something your comfortable with, I highly recommend getting with your electrician of choice. The downside is we’re kinda expensive lol. UNLESS, you happen to know one who does side work
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Luckily I supply commercial construction equipment and half of my customers are electricians!The quickest and easiest solution would be to just replace with the same size amperage normal cutler hammer breaker (home depot or Lowe’s) and install a gfci outlet to run your tank. It does involve getting into your live panel, so if that’s not something your comfortable with, I highly recommend getting with your electrician of choice. The downside is we’re kinda expensive lol. UNLESS, you happen to know one who does side work
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It should say right above the test button which style it is, but as previously mentioned that are st*pid overly sensitive. I know in square d homeline breakers the color of the push button indicates the style of fci.
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I would take Vlad's advice. I have been a Master Electrician for fifty years and I threw out most of the GFIs in my panel as they are just to sensitive and you don't need them on everything even though most codes say you do.
Put in an GFI receptacle or better yet, put 2 of them on your tank equipment on the one circuit.
Put in an GFI receptacle or better yet, put 2 of them on your tank equipment on the one circuit.
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just to be clear this is a type of outlet, right? So I basically need to change out the two outlets my tank is plugged in to?
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If the breaker has a yellow test button (right side of panel), replace it with one (same amperage as what you remove) with one that looks similar to what you have on the left side.. no test button. Looks like Eaton Cuttler Hammer brand.
Then, at the outlet, replace it with a GFCI like below (this is a 15A version, it will work if your wiring and breaker are 20A...however the opposite is not true, don't put a 20A GFCI receptacle on a 15A circuit). If you have two outlets, you have some different options.
1) You can get one GFCI outlet and attach power in to LINE (always power in) and the next outlet to LOAD. This will protect anything on the LOAD side with GFCI. HOWEVER, if it trips, all outlets on the LOAD side will turn off. Similar to how your breaker setup is.
2) You can get 2 GFCI outlets, and when running the wire only connect to the LINE side, and then connect the next outlet from the LINE side on one to the LINE side on the other. This gives each individual outlet GFCI protection, and if one GFCI trips, the rest of the outlet will still continue to run.
Then, at the outlet, replace it with a GFCI like below (this is a 15A version, it will work if your wiring and breaker are 20A...however the opposite is not true, don't put a 20A GFCI receptacle on a 15A circuit). If you have two outlets, you have some different options.
1) You can get one GFCI outlet and attach power in to LINE (always power in) and the next outlet to LOAD. This will protect anything on the LOAD side with GFCI. HOWEVER, if it trips, all outlets on the LOAD side will turn off. Similar to how your breaker setup is.
2) You can get 2 GFCI outlets, and when running the wire only connect to the LINE side, and then connect the next outlet from the LINE side on one to the LINE side on the other. This gives each individual outlet GFCI protection, and if one GFCI trips, the rest of the outlet will still continue to run.
Leviton 15 Amp Self-Test SmartlockPro Slim Duplex GFCI Outlet, White R02-GFNT1-0KW - The Home Depot
Peace of mind, all the time. The SmartlockPro Self-Test GFCI tests itself even if you forget. Designed to meet the latest UL standard for auto-monitoring (self-test) our complete line of self-test GFCIs
www.homedepot.com
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Travis Stewart
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If the breaker has a yellow test button (right side of panel), replace it with one (same amperage as what you remove) with one that looks similar to what you have on the left side.. no test button. Looks like Eaton Cuttler Hammer brand.
Then, at the outlet, replace it with a GFCI like below (this is a 15A version, it will work if your wiring and breaker are 20A...however the opposite is not true, don't put a 20A GFCI receptacle on a 15A circuit). If you have two outlets, you have some different options.
1) You can get one GFCI outlet and attach power in to LINE (always power in) and the next outlet to LOAD. This will protect anything on the LOAD side with GFCI. HOWEVER, if it trips, all outlets on the LOAD side will turn off. Similar to how your breaker setup is.
2) You can get 2 GFCI outlets, and when running the wire only connect to the LINE side, and then connect the next outlet from the LINE side on one to the LINE side on the other. This gives each individual outlet GFCI protection, and if one GFCI trips, the rest of the outlet will still continue to run.
Leviton 15 Amp Self-Test SmartlockPro Slim Duplex GFCI Outlet, White R02-GFNT1-0KW - The Home Depot
Peace of mind, all the time. The SmartlockPro Self-Test GFCI tests itself even if you forget. Designed to meet the latest UL standard for auto-monitoring (self-test) our complete line of self-test GFCIswww.homedepot.com
man I really appreciate you explaining this to me, but it’s still like reading Spanish. I will have to get someone who knows a little about electric to help me. Thanks again!
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Travis Stewart
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I know they are on same circuit because I split them up and the breaker flipped and both shut off.
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will let an electrician buddy read these posts and see what we can do. Will update you and thanks again!
