ANY HELP!!!!!!! Is Appreciated

[ReefPress]

Lately I've been having this issue in my tank where there's something growing on the sand bed and rocks. Long story short being new to the hobby and after research I realized that I should have "cured" the dry rock (which or course LFS did not tell me that). So after a while someone advised using Microbacter7 and NOPOX which I did. Well I stopped dosing both and one LFS is now telling me I shouldn't have went cold turkey with the NOPOX. Last night I removed the rock that was originally dry and added new live rock and its doing the SAME thing not even 12 hours later. Below are some pics to show. But please comment and help if you have e some advice. Also will have the before and after of ALL my euphylias closing up and loosing like ALL SPS.

Thanks!

 

[vertigo01]

IMHO it looks like the beginnings of Cyano.
Assuming that you are using RO/DI water to mix and top off.
How long has the tank been set up?
What are the water parameters?

 

[DLHDesign]

How long has the tank been set up?
What are the water parameters?

Yes - these are the key questions.

In terms of "water parameters", key numbers will be: temp, salinity, alkalinity, ammonia, nitrate.
There may be other trace elements that are important to know (silicates, iron, etc.), so if you have those - great. But the above are a good place to start.

Note that it's generally a good idea to start and stop additives in gradual increments. When you stop something "cold turkey", the tank can go into "shock" and things won't look/act normal until they adjust to the new environment they are in.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

In nonpox overdoses (and accidents) the bacteria bloom hard and suck the oxygen out of the water. It changes a lot of the parameters with it and basically makes everything a little sick.

MB7 also contains an organic carbon source as well as Bactria.
So double whammy

Sonyea , it's mad, and yes it's probly cynao. Pretty common. Worst case a dino but it doesn't matter , I'll likely fade.

Airate the water the best you can that the most important , if you have a lower alk salt do a couple largish wc and follow it with some daily small water changes.

You can actually stop carbon dosing cold turkey. I've asked Randy Farley

 

[ReefPress]

IMHO it looks like the beginnings of Cyano.
Assuming that you are using RO/DI water to mix and top off.
How long has the tank been set up?
What are the water parameters?

Yes I'm running RO/DI testing TDS. Tested:

Phosphates: 0 (Hana)
Nitrates: undetectable (Red Sea)

Tank has been up just hitting a year. I've been having phosphates issues for months now. As I said, only think I can think of is that dry rock. I've been doing water changes AT LEAST once a week.

 

[ReefPress]

Yes - these are the key questions.

In terms of "water parameters", key numbers will be: temp, salinity, alkalinity, ammonia, nitrate.
There may be other trace elements that are important to know (silicates, iron, etc.), so if you have those - great. But the above are a good place to start.

Note that it's generally a good idea to start and stop additives in gradual increments. When you stop something "cold turkey", the tank can go into "shock" and things won't look/act normal until they adjust to the new environment they are in.

I've heard about it going in to "shock" from multiple people. Now question is, what's next? I'm am so tempted to just break it down and start over. Cure the rock so I KNOW there's no excess on there.

 

[DLHDesign]

Now question is, what's next?

Check @saltyfilmfolks post above - good, practical advice there.

Stick with it - it's a solvable problem with patience and a bit of effort. My tank is also in an "ugly" stage that I'm looking to fix. And based on the advice you've gotten (thanks again Salty!), I think I have a clue on what my triggering event was and what to do about it.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Check @saltyfilmfolks post above - good, practical advice there.

Stick with it - it's a solvable problem with patience and a bit of effort. My tank is also in an "ugly" stage that I'm looking to fix. And based on the advice you've gotten (thanks again Salty!), I think I have a clue on what my triggering event was and what to do about it.

Thanks.

I think we mis read some of this.

For the OP, it was a dry rock start up , you pulled it out, added new live rock.
Is that correct?

I've heard about it going in to "shock" from multiple people. Now question is, what's next? I'm am so tempted to just break it down and start over. Cure the rock so I KNOW there's no excess on there.

The nopox is out of the system , the MB7 is too?

 

[ReefPress]

Thanks.

I think we mis read some of this.

For the OP, it was a dry rock start up , you pulled it out, added new live rock.
Is that correct?

The nopox is out of the system , the MB7 is too?

Yes I pulled out the dry rock did a large water change and added live last night. For some reason, those pics that are in this post are from a few hours ago. So basically the rocks and sand bed look like that just after a few hours. Stopped the Microbacter7 and NOPOX a while ago.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I think some would call that a "mini cycle ". Stirring up detritus and organics and pockets of ammonia.
The ammonia addition is the mini cycle.

Water changes ,gradual carbon and some bottled bacteria.