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Ok, so I'm not sure what species this little sponge is (if anyone knows let me know) but I really like the extra flash of bright red it gives the tank but it doesn't seem to be thriving...as you can see in the picture the tips started wearing away and dying a couple months ago and I'm not sure why...I have good flow on it and dose Phyto nightly along with AF Phyto Mix which sometimes which is a mix of Phyto and zooplankton...this picture is from about a month ago and I was just curious why this might be happening...Sponges seem like the type of animal to be very difficult to save after declining in health so if I'm able to pinpoint the problem and fix it I might get a new one. I know certain species can be really difficult in captivity and some pretty easy, I just have no idea about this guy IMG_20220416_173236.jpg
 
PS you might want to keep dosing phyto daily (especially with that clam) as well as consider dosing silica as many sponges use it. I think sponges also use dissolved organics so it might be possible to feed something like fuel, aminos, reef energy, etc. too.
 
Many sponges feed off DOC so phyto may not be an acceptable food. Care must be used feeding sponges as they process DOC from corals differently than DOC from algae and have been shown to creat a feedback loop promoting algae at the cost of corals. Cryptic sponges do well in out systems but because of the unknowns and potential risks with adding DOC (aka carbon dosing) and promoting pathogenic shifts in coral microbiomes I would not attempt feeding sponges.
 
Many sponges need extremely tiny food. Mine do well by my stirring up the substrate to get the "crud" into the water column. It is not the large particles that they feed on, but the microfauna. They do not do well with bright light. Algae may start to grow on them, smothering them. If yours deteriorates, even a tiny piece may stay alive and may grow. One of mine started out ten years ago as a blue vase, fell apart until it was only a half inch across, today it covers a rock.
 
Many sponges need extremely tiny food. Mine do well by my stirring up the substrate to get the "crud" into the water column. It is not the large particles that they feed on, but the microfauna. They do not do well with bright light. Algae may start to grow on them, smothering them. If yours deteriorates, even a tiny piece may stay alive and may grow. One of mine started out ten years ago as a blue vase, fell apart until it was only a half inch across, today it covers a rock.
Oh, that's awesome that they can come back!... didn't know bright light was an issue though since they're nonphotosynthetic... should I cut the frayed tips off or does that matter?
 
Oh, that's awesome that they can come back!... didn't know bright light was an issue though since they're nonphotosynthetic... should I cut the frayed tips off or does that matter?
Remember, keep it submerged. Move it to a low light area, moderate flow and let it be. One of my elephant ear was too close to the light. I had to clean it because it started to get covered. Put it in a low light area and is doing fine a year later.
 
@Spare time btw, is silica the same as silicates...as in the nutrient diatoms feed on?

Sort of.


Silica in the Ocean
Dissolved silica in the ocean largely takes the form of silicic acid, Si(OH)4. Since it is acidic and has a pKa somewhat above normal seawater pH values (pKa ~ 9.5 in freshwater; possibly it is a bit lower in seawater), about 5% of it will be present as silicate, Si(OH)3O–. Apparently, many diatoms take up the Si(OH)4 form directly, although there is some evidence that certain organisms take up Si(OH)3O–. In this article, I will not generally refer to silicic acid or silicate unless I am specifying one or the other. Typically I will refer to the sum of them as “soluble silica” or just silica, if the context is clear.

The concentration of soluble silica in the ocean is highly variable. In near surface waters, diatoms are very efficient at sucking it out of solution to make their SiO2 frustules. A diatom bloom in the ocean can drive the concentration of silica down from a value not atypical for the whole ocean, 45 mM (2.7 ppm SiO2), to less than 1 mM (0.06 ppm SiO2), at which point the diatoms can become silicon limited.2 Typical silica concentrations in the surface waters of the equatorial Pacific are a few mM.3

Rivers are the primary input of silica into the oceans (80% of the total input; underwater vents and deposition from the atmosphere are also significant contributors), and river water worldwide averages 150 mM (9 ppm SiO2).4 Consequently, coastal areas near a river may have greater silica concentrations than open ocean areas. This input is approximately balanced by the deposition of silica on the ocean bottom. However, the total biogenic incorporation of silica into organisms is about 40 times as fast as river input, indicating that much of the silicon is deposited into skeletons and re- dissolved many times before it becomes “permanently” incorporated into sea floor sediments. The average residence time for a single silicon atom in the oceans is only about 400 years, before it gets deposited in some fashion.4

When diatoms and radiolarians die and sink, they slowly dissolve, and the silica concentration in deep water can be much higher than surface water for this reason. All ocean waters are undersaturated with respect to amorphous silica (allowing the silica structures in diatoms and radiolarians to dissolve), and most waters are undersaturated even with respect to quartz,5 although its dissolution is kinetically slow, allowing beaches to exist.
 

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