Apex alarm for return pump?

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I currently have my return pump hooked up through my apex. If it were to die on me (or when it eventually does), would the apex alert me that the pump was dead? If not, are there any tricks to become alerted? I was thinking maybe put the apex temp probe in the display, which would then alert me if the temp dropped due to the heated sump water no longer being pushed to the display... Let me know your thoughts.
 
I currently have my return pump hooked up through my apex. If it were to die on me (or when it eventually does), would the apex alert me that the pump was dead? If not, are there any tricks to become alerted? I was thinking maybe put the apex temp probe in the display, which would then alert me if the temp dropped due to the heated sump water no longer being pushed to the display... Let me know your thoughts.
I would think using watts or amps would be a better direct measurement. Then use some level sensors or flow sensors if you wanted for backup.
 
I would think using watts or amps would be a better direct measurement. Then use some level sensors or flow sensors if you wanted for backup.
Is there a way to set up an alarm on the apex to alert me if said outlet stops using watts/amps?
 
Is there a way to set up an alarm on the apex to alert me if said outlet stops using watts/amps?
If you have the most recent Apex model with an EB832, you can set up an alarm to go off if your return pump is using <X amps/watts. You will likely also want to set up a statement to not have this alarm go off during feed mode. I would check the neptune forums for advise on this, or hopefully someone good with Apex codes can assist.
 
Multiple ways to do it - trigger based on energy consumption (limited to 832), use a flow sensor or use a float switch.
 
I want to say theres a task in the fusion programming that will learn the "normal" power usage for an EB832 outlet and send an alarm if the current is outside of the range. I only have an Apex Jr so I cant do it myself but Im sure a google search will get you something.
 
I am actually just running the Apex Jr as well, so I may be limited on the options through apex.
 
Get the breakout box and set up a float switch just under the high water level when the pump is off. Set the alarm to tell you if it triggers. Then you’ll know power is off because the back flow into the sump hit the switch. Easy easy.
 
Shoot. I meant you’ll know the pump is off. Not the power. You can hook up to heartbeat to know the power though.
 
I know you have an Apex Jr. but I believe this would work on an EB832:

If Output Return_Pump Watts < 20 and Output Return_Pump is ON Then ON

This would go into your alarm notification output.

Right?????
 
I know you have an Apex Jr. but I believe this would work on an EB832:

If Output Return_Pump Watts < 20 and Output Return_Pump is ON Then ON

This would go into your alarm notification output.

Right?????
Unfortunately you can't use the eb832 with the Jr

As for the code I think you would want a defer in there to stop nuisance alarms if you try that code i would do something like

Set off
If return_pump = off then off
If return_pump watts < 20
defer 005:00 Then on
When on > 120:00 minutes then off

that should make the condition exist for 5 min then trigger the alarm and shut off the alarm if it's on longer than 2 hrs. That should stop notifications when the pump restarts and after your second email/ text notification
 

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