Apex and Gen 5/Mobius

[PaulieReef]

Anyone know if we there will be a way to get the gen 5 radions to apex? Or the newer ecotech power heads. I know previously there was the WXM but now that can’t be used. I also heard you can downgrade framework on some of the older ecotech equipment but not the newer.

I haven’t seen any articles on this but would really like to control my stuff through one app.

 

[Arcu2]

I was wondering the same thing since I bought an mp40, radion g5, and vectra s2.

 

[SuncrestReef]

No, EcoTech no longer collaborates with Neptune to establish compatibility with the Apex. The WXM was discontinued for this reason since all new EcoTech products won't work with it.

 

[PaulieReef]

No, EcoTech no longer collaborates with Neptune to establish compatibility with the Apex. The WXM was discontinued for this reason since all new EcoTech products won't work with it.

Well that stinks

 

[Reef man 89]

I wonder if you take the chip out of the older MP pumps and install in the new ones if it would work.

 

[MikeTheNewbie]

I think a have an idea for a solution for this, I just posted it in the DIY section.

 

[Hydrored]

MP’s-

Mobius: Firmware Rollback to ESL/WXM

Overview QuietDrive VorTech and Vectra built after 6/1/20, will have Mobius firmware preloaded. We do not recommend performing a firmware rollback unless you already have a large group of devices ...

support.ecotechmarine.com

 

[Sylvester]

The problem is that Ecotech messed up by taking their new products and basing them on a Bluetooth platform in my opinion. If you are not 5 feet within your controllers you ain’t controlling nothing.
I returned back to Apex using the WXM box, and let me tell you the mission I went through. I tried downgrading the black Bluetooth chip and connecting to the WXM box , and nothing. I tried upgrading the chip again, and it didn’t let me .
I contacted Ecotech and when I mentioned Apex it was like they heard “devil” lol. They said they don’t know their platform and don’t work together on producing products.
Alone on my adventure I had my green Wi-Fi chips from the controller left over.
I removed the back cover, unplugged the black Bluetooth chip, did a hard reset without and chip, powered off controller ,and inserted the green chip.
I put it all back together and powered it on. Did the Mode,Set and after tapped Set and bingo.
controller flashed Blue and Yellow, so I went to the WXM and hit attach ,and boom, new plate showed up, paired and I’m back on Apex.

it’s incredible how unfriendly Ecotech was towards me when I spoke of leaving Mobius and going on Apex.
The Reeflink was unstable and unreliable, but if they fixed up the communication, I think it’s better than Bluetooth because at least you had the opportunity to see what is going on from around the world with an internet connection.

 

[ca1ore]

Yeah, you can roll back newer vortech, but stuck with mobius for radion gen5.

 

[JayinToronto]

I think a have an idea for a solution for this, I just posted it in the DIY section.

Share link?

 

[MikeTheNewbie]

Found a way to control Radion G5s (mobius) with Apex?

Hi DIYers, I wonder if anyone has found a way to control their Radion G5s or their Mobius enabled Vortechs from Apex? I thought I was OK with having my lighting work independently from everything else in my setup (Apex controlled) but I'm changing my mind and I'm considering doing something...

www.reef2reef.com

Unfortunately I’ve been spending my spare time caring for other aspects of the tank. Fought dynos, quarantining yellow tangs and corals, growing pods and phyto.
I hope to find time to go back and reverse engineer the BT protocol because I really don’t like the Mobius app and would prefer to have it linked to my Apex.

 

[OmarA]

You would think they would find a solution. In the interest of sales at least. I’m rethinking my next commitment to lighting. They would be losing over 3k from me alone. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE their lights. But talk about not playing well with others in the sandbox! So disappointed.

 

[Kye tank]

Anyone know if we there will be a way to get the gen 5 radions to apex? Or the newer ecotech power heads. I know previously there was the WXM but now that can’t be used. I also heard you can downgrade framework on some of the older ecotech equipment but not the newer.

I haven’t seen any articles on this but would really like to control my stuff through one app.

Now you can they have come out with the new MXM Module. Now you can connect EcoTech and AI to your Apex. I dont know how it works but im going to get one to try out.