Apex jr question about codes

[Pongo]

His "If power" statement was worded differently, I was wondering if the syntax was wrong.
He said he got an error trying to load it and never went back and tried to figure out why.

 

[Brew12]

His "If power" statement was worded differently, I was wondering if the syntax was wrong.
He said he got an error trying to load it and never went back and tried to figure out why.

He did get it to load when he used it in this configuration.

Here is the update on the codes for my Apex Jr. after emailing Apex Fusion. here is my setting

Fallback ON
Set ON
If FeedA 005 Then OFF
Defer 005:00 Then ON
If Power Apex Off 001 Then OFF

My only problem now is that when I loss power the skimmer comes on for about a min when Apex comes back on line and then goes off for about 5 min before coming back on. My question is this, Is one of the times in the code wrong?

Using your simplified code might help get some insight into where the problem actually is. It can't hurt to try.

 

[fredjr]

He did get it to load when he used it in this configuration.



Using your simplified code might help get some insight into where the problem actually is. It can't hurt to try.

I'll have to try that on my next day off. Thanks for all your help man.

 

[fredjr]

I think he tried something similar to this and it didn't work quite right. Seems like the Apex reboots, resorts to the Set and started the skimmer, then processed the fact that the Apex had powered off and shut the skimmer down for 5 minutes.

Big disadvantage by having the outlets and the controller in the same unit.

I haven't tried those setting yea, I'll give them a shot

 

[fredjr]

Ok guys I think I got this figured out. I'm using this simple code that one of you guys posted.
Fallback ON
Set ON
If Power Apex Off 005 Then OFF
The skimmer still comes on first then goes off for 5 min. It goes off when the Apex brain boots back up, so I guess the outlet get power first then the brain. If I had an energy bar the brain would come on first then the outlets but on the Jr. it's all build in to one and the outlets come on first.

 

[Brew12]

Ok guys I think I got this figured out. I'm using this simple code that one of you guys posted.
Fallback ON
Set ON
If Power Apex Off 005 Then OFF
The skimmer still comes on first then goes off for 5 min. It goes off when the Apex brain boots back up, so I guess the outlet get power first then the brain. If I had an energy bar the brain would come on first then the outlets but on the Jr. it's all build in to one and the outlets come on first.

Have you tried this code yet?

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Temp > 60.0 Then ON
If FeedA 005 Then OFF
Defer 005:00 Then ON

 

[Pongo]

Also, just for curiosity's sake can post a list of all of your modules?

 

[leepink23]

I have used this code for apex and apex jr, with the jr I changed the Fallback to off.

 

[leepink23]

I have used this code for apex and apex jr, with the jr I changed the Fallback to off.

 

[Pongo]

I thought you were onto something with the Fallback OFF statement until I saw this on pg. 50 of the manual.

"The Fallback statement establishes what state the outlet should be in if the EBx loses communication with the base unit, which is why it doesn’t apply to user created virtual outlets. It’s only for physical outlets on Aquabus modules (does not apply to older ‘legacy’ modules like the DC8 or the built-in outlets in the Jr.) and some system generated virtual outlets for pumps and lights."

 

[Brew12]

I thought you were onto something with the Fallback OFF statement until I saw this on pg. 50 of the manual.

"The Fallback statement establishes what state the outlet should be in if the EBx loses communication with the base unit, which is why it doesn’t apply to user created virtual outlets. It’s only for physical outlets on Aquabus modules (does not apply to older ‘legacy’ modules like the DC8 or the built-in outlets in the Jr.) and some system generated virtual outlets for pumps and lights."

I saw that too, which is why I think the Set command needs to be off. Only problem with that is then you need something to turn the pump on. Using the return pump would have been my first choice but it isn't controlled by his Apex. That is why I went with the temperature.

 

[fredjr]

I saw that too, which is why I think the Set command needs to be off. Only problem with that is then you need something to turn the pump on. Using the return pump would have been my first choice but it isn't controlled by his Apex. That is why I went with the temperature.

Here is what Apex told me in an email about my situation: That is normal for the outlets to turn on for a second or two during the initial startup of the Apex unit then outlets get the commands from the Apex and then puts the individual outlets to their proper programming that you have created. So I emailed them back and ask if there was a way to have the Apex to boot up be for the outlet come on first and they said no not without a battery back up. So I guess it is what it is.

 

[fredjr]

Also, just for curiosity's sake can post a list of all of your modules?

The only thing I got running on the Apex is the skimmer, heater and the temp probe.

 

[Brew12]

Here is what Apex told me in an email about my situation: That is normal for the outlets to turn on for a second or two during the initial startup of the Apex unit then outlets get the commands from the Apex and then puts the individual outlets to their proper programming that you have created. So I emailed them back and ask if there was a way to have the Apex to boot up be for the outlet come on first and they said no not without a battery back up. So I guess it is what it is.

That is unfortunate. There must be more than one version of the Apex jr. My LFS has an Apex jr on a DT that they use for demonstrations and training. We tried the code I suggested on it and it worked without starting up after unplugging it for 20 seconds.

 

[Pongo]

The only thing I got running on the Apex is the skimmer, heater and the temp probe.

In Fusion use the top left pull down menu next to the little house icon and your apex's name with a down arrow.
Select "modules" to bring up the list.
The list may only be one item, I'm just curious.

 

[fredjr]

In Fusion use the top left pull down menu next to the little house icon and your apex's name with a down arrow.
Select "modules" to bring up the list.
The list may only be one item, I'm just curious.

Here is what I'm looking at.

 

[fredjr]

Here is what I'm looking at.

Here is the serial
AC4J:18722 and
Firmware 4.40J_3A16

 

[fredjr]

That is unfortunate. There must be more than one version of the Apex jr. My LFS has an Apex jr on a DT that they use for demonstrations and training. We tried the code I suggested on it and it worked without starting up after unplugging it for 20 seconds.

Well I just don't get it. This thing is brand new

 

[Brew12]

Well I just don't get it. This thing is brand new

I don't get it either. Not sure why having Fallback and Set both to OFF on his unit will not cause the outlet to cycle on but that it still does on yours.

 

[fredjr]

I don't get it either. Not sure why having Fallback and Set both to OFF on his unit will not cause the outlet to cycle on but that it still does on yours.

Maybe different firmware. Who knows