Aquaforest Activated Carbon

[TbyZ]

LOL

Hard questions fine, content to create drama mehhh.

I believe anyone reading through this thread would see that I'm simply attempting to find out what source material Aquaforest uses for their brand of activated carbon. I ask because its makes such a BIG difference to whether or not the carbon is useful or useless in a marine aquarium. BRS testing made this more than obvious.
If AF cannot answer this simple question then they should just say so.

If I, as a consumer, am not allowed to ask AF this question, on your forum, judt say so.

 

[Tahoe61]

By all means you as a consumer should definitely research and ask questions, compare products.

 

[TbyZ]

By all means you as a consumer should definitely research and ask questions, compare products.

Thanks. I see AF edited post # 13, from stone to coal. And thats fine. But saying your activated carbon is sourced from "coal" is like asking mum "whats for dinner, mum" & mum answering " particulate organic matter, darling".

Anyway? thats all from me folks!

 

[SewerynAquaforest]

Thanks. I see AF edited post # 13, from stone to coal. And thats fine. But saying your activated carbon is sourced from "coal" is like asking mum "whats for dinner, mum" & mum answering " particulate organic matter, darling".

Anyway? thats all from me folks!

Will you buy it now... ?

 

[TbyZ]

Will you buy it now... ?

"What's for breakfast, AF"

???

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Thanks. I see AF edited post # 13, from stone to coal. And thats fine. But saying your activated carbon is sourced from "coal" is like asking mum "whats for dinner, mum" & mum answering " particulate organic matter, darling".

I think you may be misunderstanding how they used the word coal. Presumably he means coal mined from the ground. Real coal. Not burned stuff.

It seems very specific to me. I can't say whether it is an accurate answer, but assuming it is, it rules out nearly every other type of source material used (bamboo, coconut husk, willow peat, wood, cherry stones, almond shells, seed pods of Thespesia populnea, Bois carre´ seeds, acorns, foxnut shells, Paulownia flowers, pineapple waste biomass, sugarcane, waste tea, petroleum pitch, etc.

 

[TbyZ]

I think you may be misunderstanding how they used the word coal. Presumably he means coal mined from the ground. Real coal. Not burned stuff.

It seems very specific to me. I can't say whether it is an accurate answer, but assuming it is, it rules out nearly every other type of source material used (bamboo, coconut husk, willow peat, wood, cherry stones, almond shells, seed pods of Thespesia populnea, Bois carre´ seeds, acorns, foxnut shells, Paulownia flowers, pineapple waste biomass, sugarcane, waste tea, petroleum pitch, etc.

LOL

What about brown coal, black coal, coking coal.
Where does lignite come from Randy?

I know from reading that various coals can be used to make activated carbon.
Some are good for salt water.
Some are good for fresh water.
Some are only good for filtering air.

I don't know anything other than what I read from eggspurts, & super models.
I'm just an idiot I guess.

 

[DSC reef]

I wonder how chemipure blue or red seas reef spec carbon compares as to the source of what it's made from.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

LOL

What about brown coal, black coal, coking coal.
Where does lignite come from Randy?

I know from reading that various coals can be used to make activated carbon.
Some are good for salt water.
Some are good for fresh water.
Some are only good for filtering air.

I don't know anything other than what I read from eggspurts, & super models.
I'm just an idiot I guess.

OK, you tell me.

Which of those types of coal is not suitable for binding organics from seawater when steam activated, as AF has stated.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Coal Based Activated Carbon
http://www.ecologixsystems.com/product-activated-carbon-coal.php

Coal based activated carbon originates from coal that has undergone a steam activation process. During activation, millions of pores are created on the surface of the carbon, increasing the total surface area. Coal based carbon has mainly meso-pores and macro-pores and is very popular in gas phase purification, potable water purification, wastewater purification and aquarium/pond water purification applications.

 

[TbyZ]

OK, you tell me.

Which of those types of coal is not suitable for binding organics from seawater when steam activated, as AF has stated.

I could get off my shiny metal chair, & go to my computer files where I copied & pasted this info, but in the meantime I can put up two points.

1. Suitable & best are two very different things

2. Purigen

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Purigen is not any type of activated carbon.

I'm happy to hear which types of coal are best in someones opinion.

 

[TbyZ]

Purigen is not any type of activated carbon.

I'm happy to hear which types of coal are best in someones opinion.

Purigen isn't coal. And it doesn't emit CO2. Coal does & so does gas. But gas isn't coal, & , I'm getting off my shiny metal chair.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Purigen isn't coal. And it doesn't emit CO2. Coal does & so does gas. But gas isn't coal, & , I'm getting off my shiny metal chair.

I'll repeat, Purigen is not any type of activated carbon. I don't see why it is part of this discussion. Emit CO2? Gas? What? Are you concerned about emitting CO2 from the GAC in your aquarium?

While it would be interesting to see a comparison of Purigen and some brands of GAC in terms of binding affinity, capacity, etc, such data is not available.

 

[TbyZ]

OK, I've dragged my shiny metal chair to the computer 7 discovered that I binned all my notes on GAC, because I came to a definate conclusion that carbon ain't carbon, but that's ok, I'll carry on & start with BRS tv's comparison test, which from memmory particularly points out two things; 1. ROX rocks, & extruded GAC ain't so good.

 

[jsker]

This is getting interesting, since all the cards are on the table and I can now understand the basis of the question.

 

[TbyZ]

I'll repeat, Purigen is not any type of activated carbon. I don't see why it is part of this discussion. Emit CO2? Gas? What? Are you concerned about emitting CO2 from the GAC in your aquarium?

While it would be interesting to see a comparison of Purigen and some brands of GAC in terms of binding affinity, capacity, etc, such data is not available.

Purigen adsorbs organics just as GAC does. That was my obvious point.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

OK, I've dragged my shiny metal chair to the computer 7 discovered that I binned all my notes on GAC, because I came to a definate conclusion that carbon ain't carbon, but that's ok, I'll carry on & start with BRS tv's comparison test, which from memmory particularly points out two things; 1. ROX rocks, & extruded GAC ain't so good.

If they concluded that as you stated, I'd stop watching that channel.

http://www.cabotcorp.com/solutions/products-plus/activated-carbon/extruded

NORIT® ROX 0.8 Acid washed high purity extruded activated carbon produced by steam activation. It is used for the purification of organic, inorganic and fine chemicals, as well as pharmaceutical intermediates and industrial process waters.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Purigen adsorbs organics just as GAC does. That was my obvious point.

Uh, OK. yes it does. Purigen can bind organics.

Glad we agree on something. lol

 

[DSC reef]

If they concluded that, I'd stop watching that channel.

http://www.cabotcorp.com/solutions/products-plus/activated-carbon/extruded

NORIT® ROX 0.8 Acid washed high purity extruded activated carbon produced by steam activation. It is used for the purification of organic, inorganic and fine chemicals, as well as pharmaceutical intermediates and industrial process waters.

In your opinion randy, do you think the rox.08 is a better carbon that what chemipure blue or reef spec carbon by red sea uses?