Are dino?

[marcogig]

Hi, I wish to know if they are dino or algae with some dinos?

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[Reef.]

For me the first photo is the only one I can make a judgement on, to me it looks like algae.

Do the test, get some tank water, strain 2 cupfuls into a container, use a piece of kitchen paper towel folded over twice, let the container sit for 15-30mins, if you see a brown string substance, then yes it’s most likely dinos.

 

[marcogig]

No string in cup. I add some microscope photos. Can be dino on top on something else?

 

[Kmst80]

Looks like algae to me too in the first pic.Can't make anything of the microscope pictures.

 

[thedon986]

Maybe in the last microscope photo there are a couple dino cells. The first picture under white lights looks more like chrysophytes than dinos. Is the setup new? I think chrysophytes are more common in new setups.

 

[marcogig]

Maybe in the last microscope photo there are a couple dino cells. The first picture under white lights looks more like chrysophytes than dinos. Is the setup new? I think chrysophytes are more common in new setups.

Yes I started 3 months ago

 

[thedon986]

okay, just take it slow. If you have dino only on the sand they are mostly harmless and not toxic. Your system has a lot of time to go before it is mature and settles in.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi, I wish to know if they are dino or algae with some dinos?

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Im not convinced on dino but rather dead hair algae with gas bubbles. I would place rock in a container of tank water and pull off as much as you can by hand and scrub the rest with a firm toothbrush and some 3% hydrogen peroxide.
Return the rock then to tank, reduce white light intensity and number of hours of white lighting and add some snails such as :
Astrea
cerith
turbo grazer
trochus

A Pencil urchin
8-10 Caribbean blue leg hermits

Are you using RODI water or tap water from the faucet ?
What is your phosphate level?
Is tank at or near a window?
how long has this developed?

 

[marcogig]

okay, just take it slow. If you have dino only on the sand they are mostly harmless and not toxic. Your system has a lot of time to go before it is mature and settles in.

No they are meanly on rocks now (i siphoned out the sand easily). It developed during my holiday absence. I found many ciano on sand and then these on sand and on rock

 

[marcogig]

Im not convinced on dino but rather dead hair algae with gas bubbles. I would place rock in a container of tank water and pull off as much as you can by hand and scrub the rest with a firm toothbrush and some 3% hydrogen peroxide.
Return the rock then to tank, reduce white light intensity and number of hours of white lighting and add some snails such as :
Astrea
cerith
turbo grazer
trochus

A Pencil urchin
8-10 Caribbean blue leg hermits

Are you using RODI water or tap water from the faucet ?
What is your phosphate level?
Is tank at or near a window?
how long has this developed?

I have only 20 net liters..
1 calcinus elegans
1 turbo snail
1 nassarius

I use RODI (I started with all aquaforest water) but I don't still have post silicate filter. My PO4 are undetectable with tropic marine, and NO3 idem with sera test.

 

[marcogig]

I forgot 1 Lysmata debelius

 

[marcogig]

okay, just take it slow. If you have dino only on the sand they are mostly harmless and not toxic. Your system has a lot of time to go before it is mature and settles in.

Some updates.
I am trying to fix things... first of all, I enhanced the moviment with a jebao mlw10. I am dosing
Aquaforest pro bio s 1 drop every 2 days
Aquaforest np pro every 3 days
Daphbio live phito every 2 day.
Some askoll pelle every day

After one week
PO4 0
No3 0

The day of np I noticed an increment in diatoms (or dyno) on sand.
I have clearly growth algae on top of one rock (which are?)
I noticed a little improvement in digitata red (Some new growing points)
Due to the fact that I have not a DI stage on my RO system can I have en excess in silicate? I added 60g of sera silicate remover in the filter, lets see if something changes

 

[thedon986]

With dino, silicate is a good thing. It promotes growth of diatoms which directly compete with most dino species and can knock them back, but there may be other stuff in the RO water that dinos like. Are you able to add a DI stage to your filter? Or use distilled water for a while to see if that makes an impact.

Be careful with the Aquaforest products, it looks like they will reduce nitrate and phosphate which is why dinos flourish. You need higher levels of nitrate and phosphate. Dino are very good at outcompeting other algae when nutrients are limited, so your goal is to make nutrients abundant so the other algae don't have to compete for a limited supply. You can find supplements that will add pure nitrate and phosphate to the tank to get those levels up. My target levels are nitrate at 10ppm and phosphate at .1ppm.

 

[marcogig]

Are you able to add a DI stage to your filter

Yes, it ptobably will be my next step.. I bought the sera anti silicate to see if the silicates can be the cause. (cheapest solution)

You can find supplements that will add pure nitrate and phosphate to the tank to get those levels up. My target levels are nitrate at 10ppm and phosphate at .1ppm.

I know but I would prefer to buy a fish and feeding it for about the same cost..