Are my clowns breathing heavy?

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Ill go ahead and do a water change now. 20%? Ill have to get prime off amazon, so tommorow i should have it. Is that too long?

As long as you can do frequent water changes- even after you get the Prime in- they might be ok.
 
I have set up new tanks and put fish in from day one and they lived for months in there. You have to get a badge if your running copper and if your not, test every day with you standard test kit. It's been my experience that you are going to need to do 50% water changes at least every other day until the tank settles in.
 
I have set up new tanks and put fish in from day one and they lived for months in there. You have to get a badge if your running copper and if your not, test every day with you standard test kit. It's been my experience that you are going to need to do 50% water changes at least every other day until the tank settles in.
Thanks. Ill do a wc now
 
Ill go ahead and do a water change now. 20%? Ill have to get prime off amazon, so tommorow i should have it. Is that too long?

Its good to have Prime on hand for spikes, but I would put your clowns back into the QT until your sure there is no amonia in your main display. If there is no amonia would have to look at other possibilities but this sounds like a cycle.

For example. My pico tank WAS kicking butt, but my pistol shrimp went rouge and killed my yasha goby. This caused a mini cycle, and im glad I caught it in time. I noticed my clown goby was breathing heavy and was disoriented. Did a "big" WC and he immediately was doing better. This also caused a Cyno bloom which I still dont have a hold of yet. The pistol also killed my sexy shrimp. Hes an ASSasin, and needs a new home.

+1 for Meredith and Joey
 
Its good to have Prime on hand for spikes, but I would put your clowns back into the QT until your sure there is no amonia in your main display. If there is no amonia would have to look at other possibilities but this sounds like a cycle.

For example. My pico tank WAS kicking butt, but my pistol shrimp went rouge and killed my yasha goby. This caused a mini cycle, and im glad I caught it in time. I noticed my clown goby was breathing heavy and was disoriented. Did a "big" WC and he immediately was doing better. This also caused a Cyno bloom which I still dont have a hold of yet. The pistol also killed my sexy shrimp. Hes an ASSasin, and needs a new home.

+1 for Meredith and Joey
In my old tank i had a hitchhiking mantis shrimp that would wipe my tank out, i didnt even know he was there until i picked up the rock and he shot out. I know how that is lol
 

Already mentioned by @Joey waid adding bottled nitrifying bacteria Would be good. Can tell you that Dr. Tims will probably win here in votes, but if your going to a Petco and they dont have Dr. Tims there is ATM's.

Here is a diagram of whats happening. When you add food or when your fish poop, ammonia is created. Bacteria comes in eats the ammonia and leaves nitrite, another bacteria eats the nitrites and leaves nitrates. Nitrates are removed through WC's, Bacteria, plants/algaes, and corals. For the cycle to continuously flow in a healthy balance the bacteria needs a strong foothold. This is done in various ways. Popular methods are with live rock, live sand, live water, time, bottled bacteria, or a piece of raw shrimp. My gut thinks the best method to start cycle is with live rock, live sand, and time. If done right you can completely skip creating a dangerous level of ammonia from the get go. This is just what I do or would do.

My new tank is going to start cycle with live sand, dry rock, 48oz of ATM colony, and a pair of QT'd clownfish. Ive never tried starting with bottled bacteria before :eek:
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Already mentioned by @Joey waid adding bottled nitrifying bacteria Would be good. Can tell you that Dr. Tims will probably win here in votes, but if your going to a Petco and they dont have Dr. Tims there is ATM's.

Here is a diagram of whats happening. When you add food or when your fish poop, ammonia is created. Bacteria comes in eats the ammonia and leaves nitrite, another bacteria eats the nitrites and leaves nitrates. Nitrates are removed through WC's, Bacteria, plants/algaes, and corals. For the cycle to continuously flow in a healthy balance the bacteria needs a strong foothold. This is done in various ways. Popular methods are with live rock, live sand, live water, time, bottled bacteria, or a piece of raw shrimp. My gut thinks the best method to start cycle is with live rock, live sand, and time. If done right you can completely skip creating a dangerous level of ammonia from the get go. This is just what I do or would do.

My new tank is going to start cycle with live sand, dry rock, 48oz of ATM colony, and a pair of QT'd clownfish. Ive never tried starting with bottled bacteria before :eek:
IMG_5601.JPG
Well that would explain it. Every other time i started with live rock and sand. The fish always looked real healthy and happy. I also waited a little longer too. This time i did the raw shrimp method. Thanks for that diagram that really clearing things up, definitely gonna buy some of that nitrifying bacteria. Only store i have down here with this type of stuff is pet supermarket. They have primarily freshwater supplies though. Thanks again for all the help, ive had these clowns for about a year and would hate to see them go.
 
Already mentioned by @Joey waid adding bottled nitrifying bacteria Would be good. Can tell you that Dr. Tims will probably win here in votes, but if your going to a Petco and they dont have Dr. Tims there is ATM's.

Here is a diagram of whats happening. When you add food or when your fish poop, ammonia is created. Bacteria comes in eats the ammonia and leaves nitrite, another bacteria eats the nitrites and leaves nitrates. Nitrates are removed through WC's, Bacteria, plants/algaes, and corals. For the cycle to continuously flow in a healthy balance the bacteria needs a strong foothold. This is done in various ways. Popular methods are with live rock, live sand, live water, time, bottled bacteria, or a piece of raw shrimp. My gut thinks the best method to start cycle is with live rock, live sand, and time. If done right you can completely skip creating a dangerous level of ammonia from the get go. This is just what I do or would do.

My new tank is going to start cycle with live sand, dry rock, 48oz of ATM colony, and a pair of QT'd clownfish. Ive never tried starting with bottled bacteria before :eek:
IMG_5601.JPG
Good luck on your new tank!
 
Well that would explain it. Every other time i started with live rock and sand. The fish always looked real healthy and happy. I also waited a little longer too. This time i did the raw shrimp method. Thanks for that diagram that really clearing things up, definitely gonna buy some of that nitrifying bacteria. Only store i have down here with this type of stuff is pet supermarket. They have primarily freshwater supplies though. Thanks again for all the help, ive had these clowns for about a year and would hate to see them go.

In your tank I would use a 32oz bottle of ATM. Love Amazon!

Good luck on your new tank!

Thanks a SLOT!
 
They are beautiful clowns! Premium black snowflake? That just happen to be the pair ill be keeping :)
 
They are beautiful clowns! Premium black snowflake? That just happen to be the pair ill be keeping :)
Picasso and black and white perc. I couldnt believe all the different types of clowns when i started this a year ago!
 

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