Are these poisonous?

[ItsAName]

Before I knew about which coral have palytoxins, I bought these at reefapalooza last year.

If they are toxic, can you point me to an article on the best way to remove them without killing myself, the house, and the tank They are firmly attached to the rock.

Also, on the bottom, I've listed the rest of the coral in my tank. If one of them are known to be poisonous, let me know. Thanks!





Other coral in tank:
Purple polyp birdnest
cotton candy chalice
Rainbow lord
Blasto merletti
Green Pavona
Green birdnest
Clementine zoa
Glowstick Hydnophora
Bubblicious Zoa
Darth maul Zoa
Forbidden fruit zoa
hammer
lunar eclipse
scrambled eggs zoa
hollywood stunner chalice
devils armour zoa
twizzlers zoa
Orange Pssmacora
Jingle bell
Mamba zoanthids
Purple Monsters Zoa
Tyree red war favites
Cb bling bling cyphastrea
Watermelon Zoa

 

[nautical_nathaniel]

All zoas/palys contain palytoxin, some varieties have more or less than others. You should always be careful handling them and doing anything around them. If you ever try to frag them, make sure you always wear some basic protection such as safety glasses, gloves, sleeves etc.

 

[ItsAName]

All zoas/palys contain palytoxin, some varieties have more or less than others. You should always be careful handling them and doing anything around them. If you ever try to frag them, make sure you always wear some basic protection such as safety glasses, gloves, sleeves etc.

But isn't it known that some are more than others? For instance, ones you really want to stay away from?

 

[norfolkgarden]

But isn't it known that some are more than others? For instance, ones you really want to stay away from?

As a *very* general rule. The larger the paly, the more paly toxin.

We can only keep the ones with a decent amount of paly toxin in them thanks to the flame angelfish.
Had them for years. No issues.

As mentioned earlier, if you frag them *definitely* wear eye protection, face protection and long sleeves and nitrile gloves.
Do it with the rock *outside* of the tank.
They can squirt when you cut them.
Rinse the new frags in fresh salt water before putting them back in the tank and run some carbon after fragging.

Otherwise I don't do anything tankwise except maybe occasionally run some carbon.

We have a hard time keeping the purple paly's or xl zoas, with a green skirt.
Not enough paly toxin?

Our flame angel fish says it hasn't met a regular size zoa with noticable paly toxin in it.
[emoji4]
But it could have enough to blind you if you get it in your eye?
No clue. Wear PPE if taking them outside of the tank. And always wash your hands after putting your hands in the tank at any time.

I also wash or at least rinse my hands before putting them in the tank. But that is just for the sake of the tank inhabitants.

I don't give the paly's a second thought while they are in the tank.
But I would wrap the rock in newspaper and a plastic bag and seal it and dump it in the trash and not use the rock again before I would try to rehabilitate the rock for something like an sps tank.

 

[taxiem]

The ones in your pic look like palys

Basically anything on your list that says zoa after it or paly after it *could* contain toxins.

Best rule of thumb is always handle with caution, always wear PPE when handling out of the tank - I do all mine with the patio doors wide open too lol

I have always loved zoas and all of my tanks have had a variety of different zoas and palys in, I am always fiddling with something in the tank that I am not totaly happy with and I am not dead yet so must be handling them correctly lol xx

 

[tastyfish]

I'm no palythoa expert (in fact, I actively avoid them), however from research I've read on the toxicity, it is almost impossible to tell apart palythoas with high levels of palytoxin vs those with low levels by visual identification.

Most reports I've seen of palytoxin exposure correlate with the drab, brown species, but again, this is not a rule of thumb.

So, take precautions with all palythoa by handing only with gloves, washing hands thoroughly and not touching mucus membranes (eyes, mouth, nose).

If you are fragging, then wear gloves and eye protection, thoroughly cleaning all surfaces with bleach afterwards (bleach destroys palytoxin or makes it inert) and frag in a well ventilated area.

Never boil or heat rock and if you are removing from rocks etc then do so outside, with the appropriate safety gear and do not use acid. If you need to completely clear the rocks, then manual removal followed by bleach soaking is the best way. Make sure you clear up all fragments. Palytoxin is very stable and persists, so again, a bleach solution will help remove/destroy it.