Are wild cut Malaysian acropora extremely difficult?

[RossRusev]

Hi, does anyone have home wild cut Malaysian acropora? Are they extremely difficult? Can you share experience and pics? My LFS imported few and was wondering if its worth trying.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

Hi, does anyone have home wild cut Malaysian acropora? Are they extremely difficult? Can you share experience and pics? My LFS imported few and was wondering if its worth trying.

Thats pretty much all we have here and people seem to do fine with them...I dont keep Acros personally

 

[rhaetuluscrenatus]

I think so, never seen any can keep them more than a year, not even seen who can grow a colony from frag with Acropora Speciosa, the Flamming Sunrise is a big liar of coral shop.

 

[RossRusev]

speciosa is definitely very difficult but are all Malaysian acroporas as difficult as the speciosa

 

[Northern Flicker]

Having them make it to the store and surviving the first week in the store without RTNing is a good start…I wouldn’t buy if they are fresh off the boat.

Not sure why people even bother buying WC when you consider everything that’s aquacultured is going to be easier. Leave WC to the pros.

 

[i cant think]

Hi, does anyone have home wild cut Malaysian acropora? Are they extremely difficult? Can you share experience and pics? My LFS imported few and was wondering if its worth trying.

The basic species are easy IME. It’s the deepwater and smooth species that are more difficult.
Carduus, Speciosa, Echinata are all difficult species for various reasons.
Whereas, Hyacinthus, Milliepora, Valida and Nasuta are much easier species.

Most of the time if corals will survive the transitioning stage from the ocean to the retailers it will be the Hyacinthus, Nasuta and Milliepora. I don’t see Valida really imported anymore as it’s grown so much in hobby and isn’t always worth a ton.

 

[cgcobalt]

speciosa is definitely very difficult but are all Malaysian acroporas as difficult as the speciosa

hye , i am living at Malaysia and my tank now dominated with Malaysia , in specific sabah wild sps. i believe yours also coming from the same location , which is sabah.

for wild acro, from my experience sabah suharsonoi is the most difficult. while echinata , speciosa , lokani , not really.

when i mean not really, that doesnt mean they're easy. they still challenging, but not as hard as sabah suharsonoi.

here we always keep the qt or display tank kh somewhere below 8 , like 7.8 to 7.5. certain lfs definitely go lower like 7 , to match with their habitat.

wild tenuis , wild mille not a problem much from my short experience. they capable to handle dip really well, despite i just got em from the transhipper. open the box , temperature acclimate , dip. tomorrow they will open the polyp just fine.

for deepwater species , i suggest u better let them stabilize and adapt with the new water environment first. i tried to dip them on early , just after received the parcel and it tooks me like 2-3 weeks to see them show the polyps.

more like, luck on my side because they not straight throw the tantrum and go RTN. so it's much better to have separate qt tank for them, and dip after u see them stable.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

hye , i am living at Malaysia and my tank now dominated with Malaysia , in specific sabah wild sps. i believe yours also coming from the same location , which is sabah.

for wild acro, from my experience sabah suharsonoi is the most difficult. while echinata , speciosa , lokani , not really.

when i mean not really, that doesnt mean they're easy. they still challenging, but not as hard as sabah suharsonoi.

here we always keep the qt or display tank kh somewhere below 8 , like 7.8 to 7.5. certain lfs definitely go lower like 7 , to match with their habitat.

wild tenuis , wild mille not a problem much from my short experience. they capable to handle dip really well, despite i just got em from the transhipper. open the box , temperature acclimate , dip. tomorrow they will open the polyp just fine.

for deepwater species , i suggest u better let them stabilize and adapt with the new water environment first. i tried to dip them on early , just after received the parcel and it tooks me like 2-3 weeks to see them show the polyps.

more like, luck on my side because they not straight throw the tantrum and go RTN. so it's much better to have separate qt tank for them, and dip after u see them stable.

I agree here in BKK the majority likely come from the same source. People really dont seem to have that much extra difficulty with them. I say just buy pieces that have overgrown the frag plug a little which shows theyve been living in captivity for at least a little while.

 

[RossRusev]

hye , i am living at Malaysia and my tank now dominated with Malaysia , in specific sabah wild sps. i believe yours also coming from the same location , which is sabah.

for wild acro, from my experience sabah suharsonoi is the most difficult. while echinata , speciosa , lokani , not really.

when i mean not really, that doesnt mean they're easy. they still challenging, but not as hard as sabah suharsonoi.

here we always keep the qt or display tank kh somewhere below 8 , like 7.8 to 7.5. certain lfs definitely go lower like 7 , to match with their habitat.

wild tenuis , wild mille not a problem much from my short experience. they capable to handle dip really well, despite i just got em from the transhipper. open the box , temperature acclimate , dip. tomorrow they will open the polyp just fine.

for deepwater species , i suggest u better let them stabilize and adapt with the new water environment first. i tried to dip them on early , just after received the parcel and it tooks me like 2-3 weeks to see them show the polyps.

more like, luck on my side because they not straight throw the tantrum and go RTN. so it's much better to have separate qt tank for them, and dip after u see them stable.

Hi, thank you for such a great input. You are absolutely right. I am after sabah wild acros and was wondering how difficult they are compare to Indonesian species. I do keep my water close to ocean water parameters. Alkalinity is 7. Have you heard of supplier called Kraken marine Ecosystem S/B? Do they have good reputation in Malaysia? Would you recommend them as a supplier? Thanks a lot.

 

[rhaetuluscrenatus]

hye , i am living at Malaysia and my tank now dominated with Malaysia , in specific sabah wild sps. i believe yours also coming from the same location , which is sabah.

for wild acro, from my experience sabah suharsonoi is the most difficult. while echinata , speciosa , lokani , not really.

when i mean not really, that doesnt mean they're easy. they still challenging, but not as hard as sabah suharsonoi.

here we always keep the qt or display tank kh somewhere below 8 , like 7.8 to 7.5. certain lfs definitely go lower like 7 , to match with their habitat.

wild tenuis , wild mille not a problem much from my short experience. they capable to handle dip really well, despite i just got em from the transhipper. open the box , temperature acclimate , dip. tomorrow they will open the polyp just fine.

for deepwater species , i suggest u better let them stabilize and adapt with the new water environment first. i tried to dip them on early , just after received the parcel and it tooks me like 2-3 weeks to see them show the polyps.

more like, luck on my side because they not straight throw the tantrum and go RTN. so it's much better to have separate qt tank for them, and dip after u see them stable.

The question is, how long did you keep them alive, less than a year doesn't count, if more than one year, is it growing? Because buying frag to grow to a colony should we wait for more than 10 years ?

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

The question is, how long did you keep them alive, less than a year doesn't count, if more than one year, is it growing? Because buying frag to grow to a colony should we wait for more than 10 years ?

If they dont RTN or STN, I think that supports the idea they arent "extremely difficult". If the coral isnt dying, its almost certsinly growing as corals do. The rate of growth isnt important to the question.

 

[hunterallen40]

Here's a couple of our colonies... They really aren't as fragile as many make them out to be.

In our experience, pH and phosphate are the most important with these. We run phosphate ~0.1 and pH goes 8.3-8.6.

We have kept speciosa longer than a year.

 

[cgcobalt]

Hi, thank you for such a great input. You are absolutely right. I am after sabah wild acros and was wondering how difficult they are compare to Indonesian species. I do keep my water close to ocean water parameters. Alkalinity is 7. Have you heard of supplier called Kraken marine Ecosystem S/B? Do they have good reputation in Malaysia? Would you recommend them as a supplier? Thanks a lot.

Unsure about kraken. Because i used different supplier . But if u wanna try and discuss with my supplier, pls dont reluctant to drop me a pm. I'll provide his number to you.

At the moment he supply to UAE , Thailand , UK and South America.

 

[RossRusev]

Unsure about kraken. Because i used different supplier . But if u wanna try and discuss with my supplier, pls dont reluctant to drop me a pm. I'll provide his number to you.

At the moment he supply to UAE , Thailand , UK and South America.

pm`ed you

 

[rhaetuluscrenatus]

Here's a couple of our colonies... They really aren't as fragile as many make them out to be.

In our experience, pH and phosphate are the most important with these. We run phosphate ~0.1 and pH goes 8.3-8.6.

We have kept speciosa longer than a year.

I'm sorry but the base isn't showing that it has more than a year, do you have its photos 1 year ago ?

 

[i cant think]

I'm sorry but the base isn't showing that it has more than a year, do you have its photos 1 year ago ?

One thing I’ll say after watching Speciosa frags heal, they aren’t one that bases a ton. They do base they just don’t seem to do it like Millepora and other shallow water species do (likely because they don’t need a huge base to keep them down unlike ones up near the surface do).

 

[hunterallen40]

I'm sorry but the base isn't showing that it has more than a year, do you have its photos 1 year ago ?

I said we have kept speciosa for longer than a year... Not _these_ speciosa. I don't have any colonies that have been kept that long, only frags.

I will keep people posted on these, though! They have been doing great so far, but these have only been with us for around a month.

 

[hunterallen40]

One thing I’ll say after watching Speciosa frags heal, they aren’t one that bases a ton. They do base they just don’t seem to do it like Millepora and other shallow water species do (likely because they don’t need a huge base to keep them down unlike ones up near the surface do).

This has been my experience as well. Very minimal encrusting.