At what point do i consider euthanizing my wrasse

[Jasongtr]

If you can, watch that CB and see how many times a day it swiftly swims to the wrasse and does quick movements.

Edit: If this is just a one time thing, it could be a coincidence. If it keeps repeating, the cb is controlling the wrasse.

Its certainly not constant but also more than once a day

 

[Goaway]

Its certainly not constant but also more than once a day

Put the CB into an isolation chamber. It might take a few days before the wrasse gets the courage to eat again.

Up to you though. What other fish are in with the wrasse?

 

[Goaway]

Curious though, was the wrasse ever treated for internal parasites?

 

[Jasongtr]

Put the CB into an isolation chamber. It might take a few days before the wrasse gets the courage to eat again.

Up to you though. What other fish are in with the wrasse?

Appreciate these comments but we really are not even considering its the coral beauty bullying, other fish are

Pair of clowns
Ywg
Royal gramma
One spot foxface
Coral beauty
Midas blenny

Shes not been treated for internal parasites

 

[Goaway]

Shes not been treated for internal parasites

Might want to look into that.

Hows the algae in the tank? Are you letting the CB have nori throughout the day?

 

[Jasongtr]

Might want to look into that.

Hows the algae in the tank? Are you letting the CB have nori throughout the day?

Algae not an issue, i dialled the lights right back, nori goes in every other day for the coral beauty and fox face

 

[Goaway]

Algae not an issue, i dialled the lights right back, nori goes in every other day for the coral beauty and fox face

So keeping a pristine tank?

 

[Jasongtr]

So keeping a pristine tank?

Not necessarily, just trying to head off any issues before they take hold

 

[Goaway]

Not necessarily, just trying to head off any issues before they take hold

I'm sticking with CB being a bully. This is about food. They love to graze and killing off algae growth in the system is going to limit the food source.
But, I hope you find an answer you like.

 

[Goaway]

Macropharyngodon bipartitus help
@Crabby48 @SaltyT @Slocke @i cant think

Who else am I missing?

 

[Jasongtr]

I'm sticking with CB being a bully. This is about food. They love to graze and killing off algae growth in the system is going to limit the food source.
But, I hope you find an answer you like.

Thank you, appreciate the help

 

[vetteguy53081]

Appreciate these comments but we really are not even considering its the coral beauty bullying, other fish are

Pair of clowns
Ywg
Royal gramma
One spot foxface
Coral beauty
Midas blenny

Shes not been treated for internal parasites

I too dont suspect coral beauty as an issue and one way to confirm is to set your cell phone on video mode for about 45 mins and drop a little food and walk away - YOU MUST walk away as they know youre there. Often the aggressor is a bully at feeding time.
Review the video and see who it may be. Also new marks or damage if any would notate continued aggression. I have 3 dwarf angels- one being coral beauty over 4 years and rarely if ever does it touch seaweed. Flame and Potters for sure have no interest.

 

[Goaway]

Thank you, appreciate the help

The people I tagged will be able to provide much more useful information.

I would still looking to getting her wormed. Which might call for a separate tank if you have coral since she is not eating.

 

[Jasongtr]

I too dont suspect coral beauty as an issue and one way to confirm is to set your cell phone on video mode for about 45 mins and drop a little food and walk away - YOU MUST walk away as they know youre there. Often the aggressor is a bully at feeding time.
Review the video and see who it may be. Also new marks or damage if any would notate continued aggression. I have 3 dwarf angels- one being coral beauty over 4 years and rarely if ever does it touch seaweed. Flame and Potters for sure have no interest.

Ill try it, the coral beauty eats nori and frozen and when we were away for a few days last weekend pellets ( video camera setup)

If anyone is a food bully its the fox face, ive also noticed the fox face getting in-between the wrasse abd coral beauty and flaring spines leaning over towards the coral beauty, cant help thinking its trying to protect the wrasse

 

[Jasongtr]

The people I tagged will be able to provide much more useful information.

I would still looking to getting her wormed. Which might call for a separate tank if you have coral since she is not eating.

Appreciate it

No coral yet, but likely will set up another small tank over the weekend, did consider a qt tank but might just set up a nano tank as ive got rock in my sump i could use to instantly add the wrasse without a cycle needed

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ill try it, the coral beauty eats nori and frozen and when we were away for a few days last weekend pellets ( video camera setup)

If anyone is a food bully its the fox face, ive also noticed the fox face getting in-between the wrasse abd coral beauty and flaring spines leaning over towards the coral beauty, cant help thinking its trying to protect the wrasse

Foxface can be aggressor , but over the last 3 decades rarely see them being a jerk (just eating zoas)

 

[Slocke]

Leopard wrasse can be very sensitive. I can’t see the video but based on behavior described. I’d say it’s not an injury as it would be under the sand. I’d guess something is scaring it and unfortunately they are not brave fish.

It reminds me of an issue between my leopard and Melanurus who would side swipe the leopard. It wasn’t overly aggressive just a show of dominance. However the leopard reacted as described by your comments. I moved the Melanurus to my other tank and no more issues.

 

[Jasongtr]

Leopard wrasse can be very sensitive. I can’t see the video but based on behavior described. I’d say it’s not an injury as it would be under the sand. I’d guess something is scaring it and unfortunately they are not brave fish.

It reminds me of an issue between my leopard and Melanurus who would side swipe the leopard. It wasn’t overly aggressive just a show of dominance. However the leopard reacted as described by your comments. I moved the Melanurus to my other tank and no more issues.

I got the impression the wrasse wasnt brave, but when we got the foxface the wrasse would side swipe it for a few days, this subsided and now the foxface is bigger she wouldn't dare

 

[Slocke]

I also agree that an acclimation box with sand may work.

 

[Jasongtr]

I also agree that an acclimation box with sand may work.

Thanks, i think ill get another small tank ( dont tell the wife but ill use it as an excuse to get another tank .... lol )