ATO failure! ON!

[Sabina]

This might sound like a knock on smart ATO Neptune systems or Tunze. But it’s not, I’m just trying to help other refers to stay away from the same pitfall I fell onto.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

This might sound like a knock on smart ATO Neptune systems or Tunze. But it’s not, I’m just trying to help other refers to stay away from the same pitfall I fell onto.

I think you're spot on about redundancy. Whatever ring you throw your hat into regarding the valves is fine, because statistically speaking is likely a crap shoot. I've been wrangling over risk mitigation for a while now having flooded my house repeatedly in my past reefing efforts. I'm trying to approach this current effort with all those things in mind that you broached. Currently I'm of the mindset that three layers will get you the most reasonable level of safety. Of course this is not everyone's level of reality. A host of challenges from space constraints, to infastructure limitations to budgets face many reefers. Level one, a solenoid valve, preferably normally closed to save your butt in a power failure level two, a float valve, when level one inevitably fails (per your video). Level three, an overflow bulkhead plumbed directly to a drain. Frankly I love my pets and will always do everything in my power to do proper animal husbandry to the animals under my care. But if someone is getting thrown under the proverbial bus it's my tank over my house. That last line, if everything fails (wish it likely will over time), water just plain goes down the drain and the only thing that suffers is your salinity. Just my two cents. Great thought provoking video guys.

 

[Sabina]

I think you're spot on about redundancy. Whatever ring you throw your hat into regarding the valves is fine, because statistically speaking is likely a crap shoot. I've been wrangling over risk mitigation for a while now having flooded my house repeatedly in my past reefing efforts. I'm trying to approach this current effort with all those things in mind that you broached. Currently I'm of the mindset that three layers will get you the most reasonable level of safety. Of course this is not everyone's level of reality. A host of challenges from space constraints, to infastructure limitations to budgets face many reefers. Level one, a solenoid valve, preferably normally closed to save your butt in a power failure level two, a float valve, when level one inevitably fails (per your video). Level three, an overflow bulkhead plumbed directly to a drain. Frankly I love my pets and will always do everything in my power to do proper animal husbandry to the animals under my care. But if someone is getting thrown under the proverbial bus it's my tank over my house. That last line, if everything fails (wish it likely will over time), water just plain goes down the drain and the only thing that suffers is your salinity. Just my two cents. Great thought provoking video guys.

Yes I agree. I have installed/started systems from everything from people movers (ski lifts) to 8000hp car shredders. Three level is plenty especially if the first two level give you an indication/fault.

I do wish I had a drain as a final safety instead of a leak detector. But money constraints.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

Yes I agree. I have installed/started systems from everything from people movers (ski lifts) to 8000hp car shredders. Three level is plenty especially if the first two level give you an indication/fault.

I do wish I had a drain as a final safety instead of a leak detector. But money constraints.

Exactly, a leak detector in any form it's great but it's also a reminder you're already f*****. Again it's a cost benefit thing,. The one common thread I'm not seeing in any of these discussions is a dump over flow to a drain.