AZMSGT build thread

[AZMSGT]

Foreshadowing?

What's up with the recent Red Sea Tank failures? 750XXL ? *UPDATE* Design Flaw CONFIRMED by Red Sea !!!

09/30 RED SEA CONFIRMS DESIGN FLAW!!! Original post below. I have seen a few failures lately, especially on their big tanks. A few reports on their 750xxl in last few weeks. One 750xxl had the back pane blow out. The other started leaking at the bottom. Their Facebook group page is...

www.reef2reef.com

sigh, I want to be angry but at this point I just want to keep my livestock alive and get a replacement tank.

 

[AZMSGT]

Red Sea and I have been in communication. Looks like I will see a replacement tank in mid November. In the mean time I am considering several options.

1. quit the hobby. No I’m not kidding. Having the tank failing is a major negative and has me really rethinking my level of commitment. We want to take a couple 10 day European trips and a fish tank makes that a tough call.
2. do a full reset and redo my aquascape to the way I really want it. This would allow me to get rid of some pests in my present system. Also it’s an additional $1k in aquascape materials
3. do a 1-2 day tank swap if mine holds together long enough. This would have me keeping everything as is... just a new tank.

 

[2Sunny]

Red Sea and I have been in communication. Looks like I will see a replacement tank in mid November. In the mean time I am considering several options.

1. quit the hobby. No I’m not kidding. Having the tank failing is a major negative and has me really rethinking my level of commitment. We want to take a couple 10 day European trips and a fish tank makes that a tough call.
2. do a full reset and redo my aquascape to the way I really want it. This would allow me to get rid of some pests in my present system. Also it’s an additional $1k in aquascape materials
3. do a 1-2 day tank swap if mine holds together long enough. This would have me keeping everything as is... just a new tank.

In 2003 we had a massive brown out in New England that lasted 3 days. I was on vacation and didn't have a generator. I lost everything accept my anemone (can you believe that- H. Mags r tough!). I was thinking of getting out. I'm glad I did not - the pleasure I have had over the years has more than made up for the pain of that experience. You seem to really enjoy every aspect from photography to design to fish and corals so I feel like you are in the same boat as I was then.

Not that my vote should count for anything, but I vote 2, and start clean. Keep your corals in a Rubbermaid tub, build a new stand, and design the system so it can go 2 weeks with no input other than fish food. No matter what I'm terribly sorry to hear of this new frustration and wish you all the best going forward.

 

[AZMSGT]

Thanks, from what Red Sea has been saying is that I will get an entirely new system. Stand, tank, sump.. the works. I know they did a major redesign on the 750, I guess they have elected to redesign all the systems. So in order to replace my tank, it needs a compatible stand to work with it. My old stand isn’t compatible.

 

[ScottB]

Again, sorry about the setback. I hear your grief. At least Red Sea is responsive.

I am going to guess that European trip is going to be delayed a bit with all that is going on. I think this C19 thing is going to continue to hamper our activities for a while. When we were locked down last spring, I would have lost the rest of my marbles without the tanks to keep me focussed on something challenging.

So I am with Joe @2Sunny and vote #2. It is fun to reimagine a build. There are A LOT of things I would do differently in a restart.

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

Yeah... #2 is the obvious winner... I suspect the poll was designed that way. Hehe

 

[AZMSGT]

Yeah... #2 is the obvious winner... I suspect the poll was designed that way. Hehe

Not really.. Just very frustrated. We are hoping to take at least one major trip in late 2021 or 2022

 

[Epic Aquaculture]

Option 1 is the obvious solution. I hear everything is going great in Europe these days, and you can give the corals to me Obviously I vote 2 also. I'm happy to help out in any way that I can including holding some of your corals for you if I can find space in my systems. Also on a serious note regarding vacations, you can count on me to be a tank sitter if you go somewhere for an extended period. I'm happy to visit the tank on a daily basis to feed and check things over.

 

[AZMSGT]

I’ve decided to keep on reefing. My friends are very persuasive and supportive.

So the plan is all my coral will be going. To @SawCJack00 s place for temp holding. I will house my fish in the 55g tank I already have. I ordered a HOB skimmer to help keep the fish healthy.

I have a bunch of new rock on the way and will start building a new aquascape. When it all arrives. Some of my old pieces will get added too.

Red Sea said the new tanks should be available in Mid November.. Hoping that is true and I’ll have my replacement by late Nov. trying to be optimistic.

All my sump rock will be stored in the garage and go into the new tank to seed it.

 

[ScottB]

I’ve decided to keep on reefing. My friends are very persuasive and supportive.

So the plan is all my coral will be going. To @SawCJack00 s place for temp holding. I will house my fish in the 55g tank I already have. I ordered a HOB skimmer to help keep the fish healthy.

I have a bunch of new rock on the way and will start building a new aquascape. When it all arrives. Some of my old pieces will get added too.

Red Sea said the new tanks should be available in Mid November.. Hoping that is true and I’ll have my replacement by late Nov. trying to be optimistic.

All my sump rock will be stored in the garage and go into the new tank to seed it.

Good to hear that you have community support and are prepared to relaunch. Any chance you can take advantage of the restart to bump up to the 900? Just a thought.

 

[AZMSGT]

Good to hear that you have community support and are prepared to relaunch. Any chance you can take advantage of the restart to bump up to the 900? Just a thought.

No space and then it would be on my dime.. and the price is cost prohibitive for me as well as the 625 was the biggest I could fit into my space anyway.

 

[2Sunny]

Just something to put in the back of your mind when restarting. In my 2 decades reefing and after numerous restarts I feel my "next" restart will have minimalist rock work. Initially it is painful to look at since it is so sparse but in time it becomes amazing once the corals grow to colony size. Here is my favorite example:

 

[AZMSGT]

Just something to put in the back of your mind when restarting. In my 2 decades reefing and after numerous restarts I feel my "next" restart will have minimalist rock work. Initially it is painful to look at since it is so sparse but in time it becomes amazing once the corals grow to colony size. Here is my favorite example:

Thanks, yea, I know it will make a comeback, it’s just the process of tearing down to ground zero and building back up that is exhausting. BTW, beautiful tank.

 

[AZMSGT]

The last FTS image of the system before tear down.

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

And now ita just a cloudy empty tank? The fish that tou just put back in there are confused that they have to go back into the qt tank... "but I'm healthy! Truly I am, why are you punishing me like this??" Hehe

 

[AZMSGT]

Torn down

Temp home, 55g tank seeded with lots of rock from previous tank.

 

[Poseidon's snail]

Awww man feel your pain...
following and what takes longer - is way better at the end!

 

[vikinglord13]

I like to see moments like these as an opportunity to start over, fresh with a new plan in the works.

 

[AZMSGT]

Thanks to @Sisterlimonpot, @SawCJack00 and Sam for the help moving the old tank out to the garage. Your help was appreciated very much.

 

[Michael Gray]

man i didnt know this... just discovered this.. keep trucking along.. i have sticks if u need stick eventually just let em grow and u can snatch some