baby hermit crabs?

[acidtablockshifty]

Does anyone have a picture of a baby hermit crabs out of their shells, i have many little what i think are baby hermit crabs about the size of a grain of rice maybe smaller. At first i thought oh they must be baby bristle worms or something but i notice they are curled up a bit, my phone will not get a good pic im going to borrow a camera soon but they do move around pretty quick, looks like some type of pod but they actually like fall over backwards on their tail section leading me to believe they are meant to be in a shell

my other question is the tank has been fallow for a while now, and im going to put fish in tomorrow hopefully, i got some really small shells but probally not enough (plus even if they are who knows how long it will take them to figure out a shell), will small fish like 1 inch damsel eat these things or will they go after the pods instead, ive notice a reduction in pods and i think its because these new critters are eating the pods

also little tiny white cone shape snails tons of them i never put any of this type a snail in so either a hitch hicker or these are the very start of turbo snails, which i do have babies of growing but they seem to grow their shell like a toenail almost, these things are little cones but they dont seem to be getting bigger they are also like totally inside the cone move very slowly

 

[Tahoe61]

Does anyone have a picture of a baby hermit crabs out of their shells, i have many little what i think are baby hermit crabs about the size of a grain of rice maybe smaller. At first i thought oh they must be baby bristle worms or something but i notice they are curled up a bit, my phone will not get a good pic im going to borrow a camera soon but they do move around pretty quick, looks like some type of pod but they actually like fall over backwards on their tail section leading me to believe they are meant to be in a shell

my other question is the tank has been fallow for a while now, and im going to put fish in tomorrow hopefully, i got some really small shells but probally not enough (plus even if they are who knows how long it will take them to figure out a shell), will small fish like 1 inch damsel eat these things or will they go after the pods instead, ive notice a reduction in pods and i think its because these new critters are eating the pods

also little tiny white cone shape snails tons of them i never put any of this type a snail in so either a hitch hicker or these are the very start of turbo snails, which i do have babies of growing but they seem to grow their shell like a toenail almost, these things are little cones but they dont seem to be getting bigger they are also like totally inside the cone move very slowly

Hermit crabs have a reputation of being incredibly hard to raise in the home aquarium. In their larval stages it's almost impossible to provide the right nutrition. I am inclined to think you're seeing some other type of Zooplankton.

You're probably seeing a reduction in pods because you're not feeding fish. Feed some Phytoplankton to the system and you'll see population growth. Yes damsels and many other fish will pick off what pod types they can.

Please google Pyramid snails, a parasitic snails to clams and other larger snail types. They look like a grain of rice.

If possible please try to get an image of your little unknown critters.

 

[acidtablockshifty]

i definitely will, its been fallow a whileeee now i was ghost feeding the tank way to much and i cut back alot recently,i do feed cyclopseeze as part of the feedings always, but i would say there is probably at least 40 baby turbo snails that grew during the fallow, nassarius snail i found in the fuge which i put three of those in the tank one died for some reason right of the bat so i know there was only two nassarius in the hole system now theres three again,

my larger turbo snails are doing fine

 

[acidtablockshifty]

they dont seem to be pyramids they look like they will keep the cone shape going upwards like astrea's the only thing is that the growth rate does concern me like maybe they just stay small, i will get pics

 

[Tahoe61]

Ok well how about Collinista snail.

We really need some images otherwise it's anybodies guess.

 

[Tahoe61]

http://www.lionfishlair.com/hitchhiker/hitchhiker.shtml
http://www.melevsreef.com/critters/snail-nudis

http://www.marinebreeder.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=196
Chucks addiction used to have an excellent Hitch Hiker section, but sadly it's not longer available. Try looking around the other links I provided.

 

[acidtablockshifty]

okokokok i finally managed to get one good video of the thing in question(maybe a just a brine shrimp?idk), and a pic of the snail which look to be a normal snail maybe i just never noticed the change from these to regular looking but like i said these snail are already living in their shells the other ones are still carry around their shells as a back pack for now some are starting to kinda transfer into the shell more.

 

[acidtablockshifty]

i cant even windows right now, i hate the new windows so much, wont let me upload the video probably because its mp4 not mp3

 

[acidtablockshifty]

<iframe src="https://vid.me/e/NZgB" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen scrolling="no" height="480" width="270"></iframe>

 

[Tahoe61]

The snail is Collinsta, I believe.

 

[acidtablockshifty]

yeah that sounds about right looking at some pics, and they are tiny like the tip of non sharpend pencil, but can anyone id the thing in the video, before i took the video i suctioned up some of these guys molts that were floating around thought maybe i could id that way its so hard to tell what they are, anyways some tinsy tiny shells are going in the tank maybee ill place them in cervices in the rock, cant hurt i need to order some bigger shells online too

 

[acidtablockshifty]

also dont mind my nasty rocks, my skimmer overflowed twice in one week, first time was almost a full cup, all levels stayed fine but green hair fuzz quickly coated everything

 

[Chris Adams]

amphipod is in video

 

[acidtablockshifty]

huh yeah i guess i just never expected to see them this big as the are like 8-10 times the size of other pods i can see at the same time, i saw one today eating the poop right from a turbo snail, thats priceless

 

[acidtablockshifty]

thanks for the i.d.

 

[megisawesome06]

Random noob question! If I were to buy some small empty shells to provide for my growing hermits, would I need to qt them? So far I'm getting that you mainly qt things that are wet. These are dry in a ziplock bag. TIA!

 

[acidtablockshifty]

if its just a shell/shells, you could boil them to kill anything then put it in, your supposed qt anything you put in, but shell that has been boiled or another process to kill anything wouldnt need to be qt i would think. I boiled the shells i got because there were few dead dried up crabs in the bag, some will say you dont need to qt things like inverts because ich/velvet things like that are not carried by inverts, its really up to you if you started the tank with live rock though and then put snails in from the same store you got the live rock its going to have the same hitchhickers likely as what you started the tank with, having a qt tank for coral and inverts with proper lighting seems crazy but its on my list of plans, plus it will give me a place to observe new fish that may not take to copper treatments well, but they can be observed for a period of time in that qt tank and then transferred to a nother hospital tank for something like a hypo treatment. also having the time to make sure theres nothing you dont want in your system like say a barnacle on a snails shell, that in your main display will multiply by the thousands given right water conditions. Im probaly going to have two trays of sand and two sets of rock that way if i needed to clean out the coral invert qt tank and restart it, it could happen quicker. but i've already made many quarantining mistakes after all the thought into it im not sure it would be worth it unless i restarted my main display,... maybe if i end up moving it or something that is when ill do it.

 

[SantaMonicaHelp]

I agree, a Collonista. Tiny little thing minding its own business.

~CI