Bacterial infection ?

radreef02 · Apr 7, 2022

Just began dosing copper for the first time after my yellow tang has been in QT for 3 weeks. He eats great, aggressively if anything and no unusual activirt

had a few white spots but now it’s been clear for 2 weeks.

I began dosing copper this morning, woke up and he seems a little red around his head. Not sure if I never noticed it before. He is a biota yellow tang so I know they look funky sometimes .
it’s a 40g and I dosed .6ml copper per gallon
Reading .6-.7 ppm

just wondering if this looks unusual

Sharkbait19 · Apr 7, 2022

What are the other params? Specifically ammonia?
#fishmedic

radreef02 · Apr 7, 2022

Reading 0 maybe .1 if anything

badge and api reading below .02

Jay Hemdal · Apr 7, 2022

radreef02 said:
Just began dosing copper for the first time after my yellow tang has been in QT for 3 weeks. He eats great, aggressively if anything and no unusual activirt

had a few white spots but now it’s been clear for 2 weeks.

I began dosing copper this morning, woke up and he seems a little red around his head. Not sure if I never noticed it before. He is a biota yellow tang so I know they look funky sometimes .
it’s a 40g and I dosed .6ml copper per gallon
Reading .6-.7 ppm

just wondering if this looks unusual

What copper product are you using, Cupramine?

What copper test kit do you have?

Jay

radreef02 · Apr 7, 2022

Using API , wasn’t concerned about huge accuracy as I’m not trying to dose above 2 and it’s only 3 fish in there
Using copper safe

radreef02 · Apr 7, 2022

still eating a lot this morning

radreef02 · Apr 7, 2022

Jay Hemdal said:
What copper product are you using, Cupramine?

What copper test kit do you have?

Jay

If it’s bacterial could I dose a anti-bacterial at the same time

MnFish1 · Apr 7, 2022

radreef02 said:
If it’s bacterial could I dose a anti-bacterial at the same time

There is no reason to dose prazipro - its not an 'antibiotic' per se. Maybe I'm totally blind - I do not see a problem (i.e. I don't see the redness).

Curious though - you had the fish in (observation?) QT for 2 weeks - and now adding copper? If you're planning to treat the CI on the fish - you may need to have higher levels - depending on the type you're using?

radreef02 · Apr 7, 2022

I agree on the prazi, I wasn’t thinking cus ive never used it. I mistaked it.

MnFish1 said:
There is no reason to dose prazipro - its not an 'antibiotic' per se. Maybe I'm totally blind - I do not see a problem (i.e. I don't see the redness).

Curious though - you had the fish in (observation?) QT for 2 weeks - and now adding copper? If you're planning to treat the CI on the fish - you may need to have higher levels - depending on the type you're using?

Yes I had them in observation for 3 weeks and I am now adding coppersafe. What is CI ?

MnFish1 · Apr 7, 2022

radreef02 said:
I agree on the prazi, I wasn’t thinking cus ive never used it. I mistaked it.

Yes I had them in observation for 3 weeks and I am now adding coppersafe. What is CI ?

Cryptocaryon (Ich)

radreef02 · Apr 7, 2022

MnFish1 said:
Cryptocaryon (Ich)

Kinda figured but never heard of CI sorry . I’m slow, anyways , the redness is kinda visible but I don’t wanna treat Whats not needed if there’s nothing wrong

I almost didn’t copper treat anyway as the yellow tang had ich covered and pulled through in a few days and as well that I know some ich will find its way into the tank someday. LFS , many of them have told me to always QT , and that they always QT. I only plan to run 2 clownfish and this tang anyways.

Then I find out the same ones that they always have some ich in their tank even their huge tanks.

SlugSnorter · Apr 7, 2022

radreef02 said:
Kinda figured but never heard of CI sorry . I’m slow, anyways , the redness is kinda visible but I don’t wanna treat Whats not needed if there’s nothing wrong

I almost didn’t copper treat anyway as the yellow tang had ich covered and pulled through in a few days and as well that I know some ich will find its way into the tank someday. LFS , many of them have told me to always QT , and that they always QT.

Then I find out the same ones that they always have some ich in their tank even their huge tanks.

because they QT on a large scale with regular new additions of sick fish, as a hobbyist, with carful planning, its entirely possible to avoid ich.

radreef02 · Apr 7, 2022

anyone able to give me an idea on this redness I’m seeing on the yellow tang or is this normal for some biota tangs .

Sharkbait19 · Apr 7, 2022

I’d agree it looks pretty normal - often you can see the internal organs on lots of small fish and that looks like such to me.

Jay Hemdal · Apr 7, 2022

radreef02 said:
If it’s bacterial could I dose a anti-bacterial at the same time

That can be done, but I prefer not to do that if possible. A bit of redness on YT is pretty common as a response to general stress. I usually opt to "wait and see" how it develops over a day or two before rushing into a treatment.

Jay

radreef02 · Apr 7, 2022

Jay Hemdal said:
That can be done, but I prefer not to do that if possible. A bit of redness on YT is pretty common as a response to general stress. I usually opt to "wait and see" how it develops over a day or two before rushing into a treatment.

Jay

Thank you , I’m currently getting water tested by a LFS instead of my API kits