Bacterial or something worse?

[juicemanatx]

They're in a tub and not a tank so it's hard to get a good picture of him but he's definitely the worst infection.



Sent from my iPhone

 

[juicemanatx]

I just segregated that Sohal so he'll stop messing with him

 

[juicemanatx]

No thoughts? I can pull him and treat him, my thoughts are that I probably need to treat the tub

 

[juicemanatx]

 

[Humblefish]

I think he probably has velvet or brook. Plus a secondary bacterial infection.

I would use this protocol to treat him (and any fish he shares water with): https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499437

 

[Humblefish]

Also, look for flukes when doing the FW dip: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

Something tells me this fish has multiple ailments and these will be spreading to all the other fish in that tub.

 

[aykwm]

+1 agree, videos are not that obvious but rapid breathing might indicate parasitic infection in gill do fw to check for flukes and provide relief for fish and probably treat for velvet using copper or cp.

 

[juicemanatx]

I did the freshwater dip and didn't see anything come off so I don't think flukes

 

[melypr1985]

I agree there are multiple things happening here. The protocol Humble linked is definitely the way to go here.

 

[juicemanatx]

His color Is better this morning but still breathing heavily.

Everyone else in the system still looks ok with no issues.

 

[juicemanatx]

@Humblefish @melypr1985 my LFS suggested NLS Ich Shield Powder for the possible velvet? Thoughts

 

[aykwm]

@Humblefish @melypr1985 my LFS suggested NLS Ich Shield Powder for the possible velvet? Thoughts

Ich shield does contain CP which does cure velvet, the problem is that its unknown what quality and concentration are in the medication which might cause it to be ineffective.

 

[juicemanatx]

Ich shield does contain CP which does cure velvet, the problem is that its unknown what quality and concentration are in the medication which might cause it to be ineffective.

And that's what I've been reading.

My Vet is going to write a script for CP, I'm curious if I can find it locally before going online.

 

[Humblefish]

My Vet is going to write a script for CP,

^^ This is the only way to ensure you are getting 99% pure CP which will work.

 

[juicemanatx]

^^ This is the only way to ensure you are getting 99% pure CP which will work.

Ok, it's on the way. I read through the CP post.

Can I use ammonia remover sponges or similar with CP?

 

[Humblefish]

Can I use ammonia remover sponges or similar with CP?

Yes

 

[juicemanatx]

Well, the Sailfin didn't make it. I've got everything else moved to a clean QT. I did a dip with Rally, and start CP tomorrow.

Now that I have the fish in a tank, I can clearly see the dust on them so Velvet for sure. Hopefully the ones who aren't doing so well aren't too far gone.

 

[Humblefish]

Sorry to hear you are dealing with velvet; it is a devastating disease.

 

[juicemanatx]

Sorry to hear you are dealing with velvet; it is a devastating disease.

Be it known that every fish that went in this tub was from Divers Den at Live Aquaria, so don't trust any seller.....

 

[aykwm]

Be it known that every fish that went in this tub was from Divers Den at Live Aquaria, so don't trust any seller.....

So sorry to hear that, unfortunately you can't trust any seller online as they source their fish from different location and cross contamination will occur. My LFS does the same thing, they sell clownfish that are tank bred and mention that since they are tank bred they are disease free, but you see with in the same system (or sometimes the same tank) as wild caught fish. Even if the website mention that they have copper in their system or that they treat all fish, usually its not enough or its not done right. Hopefully the remaining fish will recover and best of luck with the treatment.