Bailout?

[remy1290]

My torches have been receding flesh from bottom up and I see one head starting to bail out now. All parameters are stable and in range for LPS. Any suggestions? I turned down flow a bit.

 

[SaJon]

My torches have been receding flesh from bottom up and I see one head starting to bail out now. All parameters are stable and in range for LPS. Any suggestions? I turned down flow a bit.

Looks like RTN (rapid tissue necrosis) appears to be an infection in the tissue/skeleton of the coral. So sorry to see this. Hopefully you can stop it in time.

 

[Lavey29]

Euphyllia can get bacterial infections but please provide complete parameters and age of the tank.

 

[remy1290]

Looks like RTN (rapid tissue necrosis) appears to be an infection in the tissue/skeleton of the coral. So sorry to see this. Hopefully you can stop it in time.

Fauna Marin sells some rtn/stn treatment locally to my luck

 

[remy1290]

Euphyllia can get bacterial infections but please provide complete parameters and age of the tank.

Hey there, My tank is about 6 months old 36 gallon.
1.025 salinity, 8.3 alk, 8ppb phosphorus, calcium 435, magnesium 1350..

 

[remy1290]

Looks like RTN (rapid tissue necrosis) appears to be an infection in the tissue/skeleton of the coral. So sorry to see this. Hopefully you can stop it in time.

Any insight on the fauna stuff?

 

[Lavey29]

Hey there, My tank is about 6 months old 36 gallon.
1.025 salinity, 8.3 alk, 8ppb phosphorus, calcium 435, magnesium 1350..

Need nitrates number please

 

[remy1290]

Need nitrates number please

Using the Salifert test for nitrates it’s reading between 10-30 ppm pretty high…

 

[Lavey29]

Using the Salifert test for nitrates it’s reading between 10-30 ppm pretty high…

No that is ok for LPS. 10 is fine 30 just slightly elevated but not a problem typically. Water changes bring it down.

 

[Lavey29]

Can you take puc under white light showing close view of receding head?

 

[remy1290]

Can you take puc under white light showing close view of receding head?

For sure! Is this good enough? I figured it had to be STN due to the recession of white skeleton tissue from the bottom up, they used to have a much thicker white flesh underneath the tentacles over the branch base.

 

[Lavey29]

For sure! Is this good enough? I figured it had to be STN due to the recession of white skeleton tissue from the bottom up, they used to have a much thicker white flesh underneath the tentacles over the branch base.

I don't see evidence of BJD. I've had torches randomly lose a head for unknown reasons probably bacteria and the remaining heads seem to stay fine.

Did you try dipping for pests?

 

[remy1290]

I don't see evidence of BJD. I've had torches randomly lose a head for unknown reasons probably bacteria and the remaining heads seem to stay fine.

Did you try dipping for pests?

I indeed performed a dip yesterday and let it sit in it to bathe for 10 or so minutes as well as shaking it slightly, and no evidence of pests.

 

[radreef02]

I have been trying to figure this same issue out.

I did a water change , started to run filter sock instead of my filter floss. Noticed my alk had a random spike that I never caught and phosphate

I was always texting .04 phos and 8 dkh alk

My solution

Went to the store , found out filter floss was making my nitrate and phos crazy high and tested 3.8 phos and 5.5 dkh alk

Dosed to get back to 8-9 dkh alk and put some extractphos and ran filter sock + water change and my numbers have been stable for a week now. The torch lost 1 head from bailout but the other 2 stopped receding

Conclusion:

I believe it happened in a unknown parameter swing that never shown the cons until recently which could be the same cause in your tank. My torches are always happy as can be but tend to want to bailout until I made these changes

My tank is 6 months old. 54g , plenty of signs of maturity but the filter floss + crazy growth of coralline made my crazy high phosphates and dip in alkalinity I’m assuming

 

[remy1290]

I have been trying to figure this same issue out.

I did a water change , started to run filter sock instead of my filter floss. Noticed my alk had a random spike that I never caught and phosphate

I was always texting .04 phos and 8 dkh alk

My solution

Went to the store , found out filter floss was making my nitrate and phos crazy high and tested 3.8 phos and 5.5 dkh alk

Dosed to get back to 8-9 dkh alk and put some extractphos and ran filter sock + water change and my numbers have been stable for a week now. The torch lost 1 head from bailout but the other 2 stopped receding

Conclusion:

I believe it happened in a unknown parameter swing that never shown the cons until recently which could be the same cause in your tank. My torches are always happy as can be but tend to want to bailout until I made these changes

My tank is 6 months old. 54g , plenty of signs of maturity but the filter floss + crazy growth of coralline made my crazy high phosphates and dip in alkalinity I’m assuming

Thanks for the in depth reply! So to clarify you took out the filter floss and replaced it with what? I’m very glad to see you were able to take care of it quickly and save those gorgeous torches!

 

[radreef02]

Thanks for the in depth reply! So to clarify you took out the filter floss and replaced it with what? I’m very glad to see you were able to take care of it quickly and save those gorgeous torches!

Filter floss was my main filtration in a filter cup. It wasn’t helping with my nitrates or phosphates. I switched to filter socks

And of course , thank you ! I was upset that they were going out

 

[jabberwock]

I don't think a 6 month old tank is mature. Sounds like you are just getting started.

 

[jabberwock]

@radreef02 do you disagree?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Focus on the extremes- Extreme lighting and water flow. The calcium needs for these are are important as is location is tank which is upper third of tank. Moderate to medium flow and lighting. The polyps will remain retracted and under-inflated if the water current is too fast because the large flowing polyps are prone to rip and tear in high or ultra-high current environments.
The torch coral is a photosynthetic coral, meaning it has a relationship with symbiotic zooxanthellae (single-cell photosynthetic organisms) that live inside its tissues that converts the light energy into sugar. In exchange for a home inside the coral, the zooxanthellae split their harvest and feed the coral.
Feeding not totally required but recommended- Mine get Mysis shrimp.

Example of My Euphyllia:

 

[jabberwock]

Focus on the extremes- Extreme lighting and water flow. The calcium needs for these are are important as is location is tank which is upper third of tank. Moderate to medium flow and lighting. The polyps will remain retracted and under-inflated if the water current is too fast because the large flowing polyps are prone to rip and tear in high or ultra-high current environments.
The torch coral is a photosynthetic coral, meaning it has a relationship with symbiotic zooxanthellae (single-cell photosynthetic organisms) that live inside its tissues that converts the light energy into sugar. In exchange for a home inside the coral, the zooxanthellae split their harvest and feed the coral.
Feeding not totally required but recommended- Mine get Mysis shrimp.

Example of My Euphyllia:

Now that looks like a mature tank. I am humbled by your knowledge. Thank you!