Banging my head against a wall..

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Hi all,
Thanks for reading and hopefully some advice. I set my current tank up over Christmas. Total volume is about 200g, I do weekly water changes of 15g, and my light cycle is a total of 10hrs from ramp up to ramp down with 3 1/2 hrs of everything at 100% (T5 & LED). This includes my " moonlight" phase also.I test every other week with levels to what I consider very acceptable. Flow is taken care of with two Tunze 6105 and return is a dc10000 and a large tunze skimmer (9415).
My issue has been phosphates. Currently I am fighting red wire hair, diatoms on the sand bed, what I worry may be briopsis(?) and other unsightly algae. I know I get a negative phosphate result due to the algae. My fish count is minimal (1 b/w perc., 1 Mel. Wrasse, 1 six line and a juvi Naso.)
I keep telling myself that I'm just fighting N.T.S. But I've never had it last this long in a tank. I've been trying not to make rash decisions, and stay on course with proper husbandry. But this is really frustrating me.
All of my rock came from my old system (approx. 130lbs of BRS dry rock) and my sand is Reef Flakes (2-2 1/2"). I've tested my RODI water with negative results, food is made fresh ( scallops, clams, octo, squid, reef caviar, mysis, nori, with a small bit of selcon and spirulina). The Naso gets 1/2 sheet of green/red/ or brown ( I alternate) 3 times a week. And Twice a week I feed phyto and reef chili.
GFO and carbon have been run in bags in the sump, right after the filter pads, and are changed regularly. I don't use reactors for two reasons, the bags have always worked in the pass, easy changing media. And there is no carbon dosing. Lastly, I have a remote fuge with MM, LR and Mangroves that is on a 18hrs light cycle. The fuge receives water from my return.

So where I am at... Because this has been an ongoing thing, I'm just rattled.. At times I wonder if it's the rock, should I have just done real live rock? After two years (with being in my old tank) it should be biologically sound, right? Is it the sand as I started with dry instead of live? Is it the Miricale Mud in the fuge (only 1 1/2")? Do I not have enough rock for biological stability? Should I just remove all fish and just go fallow for the next 3 months? Add more pumps to get more flow? And going way off the deep end, cut the corals, scrap the rock, buy live, start again?
Am I being impatient?
Last night I stepped a bit out of my comfort zone and Purchased Brightwell's Phosphate-e. I have a few friends that use this with great results, but I am not one that believes in miracle cures.it is supposed to bind the phosphates and allow them to be skimmed and removed with sock/pads. My next thought would be Lanthium Chloride (?).
Any help would be appreciated, starting to get a heading from hitting this wall....
 
Phosphate E is Lanthanum, but I would recommend Sea Klear, its made for pools, and its cheap, thats what I use. And yes, it is a miracle cure for phsophate, it will rid your system of phosphate right now, if dosed correctly. I just dose a capful a week now, and it keeps my system clean.
You say you are using GFO, but is it enough for your system, you could always step up the amount your using of that.
 
How often are you feeding? between feeding the fish and feeding the corals twice a week could you be overfeeding?
 
I feed everyday, once a day as far as the fish. I thaw the food mix in salt water and feed about 1/2oz( 1/3rd of a turkey baster) to the tank. All gone within 2 minutes. Phyto goes in twice a week, broadcast feeding, about two tablespoons with the skimmer still running, but I put my tunze pumps into a 15 minute feed mode. This happens after sunset..
 
I used media bags for my mechanical filtration for years and had mediocre results. I switched to reactors and started to get the results I wanted. I know that you are not a fan of reactors but it makes a difference especially if you like to feed your livestock regularly. I run EcoBak Plus bio pellets and a small amount of GFO. The EcoBak Plus gets phosphates down and the GFO gets them to zero. The EcoBak Plus is ran in a Vertex 1.5 l reactor and the GFO is in an Innovative Marine medium size reactor. My net water volume is around 63g. The maintenance is next to nothing for the EcoBak and the GFO is a monthly change.
 
I've dosed the recommended amount for the Phos-e (40ml for 200g) , not sure if I should do this daily or every other day or just once a week. Unfortunately as I said, the algae, in my belief, is giving me a 0 on my phos test kit and nitrate kits and I don't want to shock my system. I am still running GFO with this, bag was changed 3 days ago. I'll be heading to my LFS today, as I've just noticed some spots on my Naso's fins. Excuse my outburst but, S#B! I've heard about Dr. G having a great parasitic food, any thoughts?
Back to topic though, since I am trying this Phos-e, I don't want to make to many changes at the same time, but also I need to figure out what is the cause.
I've been in this hobby for 12 years and have never had so many issues. I'm trying not to over think this , but I'm starting to feel desperate...
 
I used media bags for my mechanical filtration for years and had mediocre results. I switched to reactors and started to get the results I wanted. I know that you are not a fan of reactors but it makes a difference especially if you like to feed your livestock regularly. I run EcoBak Plus bio pellets and a small amount of GFO. The EcoBak Plus gets phosphates down and the GFO gets them to zero. The EcoBak Plus is ran in a Vertex 1.5 l reactor and the GFO is in an Innovative Marine medium size reactor. My net water volume is around 63g. The maintenance is next to nothing for the EcoBak and the GFO is a monthly change.


I've used reactors in the past on other tanks, never really seemed more effective, but I've never really had so many issues. I've always been a big believer in consistent water changes, stable parameters, RODI, and not over feeding, large skimmer. Simpler the better, with less factors to have a possible issue with.
 
The Phosphate E you would dose until you see results, meaning daily, until you would see no phosphates per testing. But, being as you are getting 0, I'd say its gonna be a tough call, because that stuff ain't cheap, and it doesn't go very far for you. I'd dose every other day, until you see some results, should only take a week or so for you to see the algae take a hike, or at least see it start to die out.
Do you have a big enough CUC in there to tear it up at least?
I over feed my tank as much a I want to, I have a daily routine with Vodka Dosing, and weekly Sea Klear dosing, I've got no algae issues.
 

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