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For those wanting a barebottom tank but the benefits of sand with relation to biological filtration wouldnt it be the best of both worlds to use a fluidized sand filter on a barebottom tank?
With a filter like that you have a prefilter so there would be no detritus in the sand.
Any reason why this wouldnt be the best of both?
 
Wow I haven't heard of using a fluidized bed reactor in years. I remember I had one on my reef tank in the late 90s
 
Wouldn't that be perfect for the barebottom tank to get past the first year of instability and help with the lack of bacteria of not having a sand bottom?
 
I dont know. I remember them being a sever nitrate trap and caused more problems than they are worth.
 
With all the ways that bacteria can be added to a new tank nowadays, I am not sure it would be necessary? They always scared me due to all the power outages we seem to get at our house. That sand bad has to stay moving....otherwise it falls and can compact at the bottom and smother due to lack of O2....at least that is what I have read.
 
Power outages would be a big negative for a sand filter. Seems like for the first year at least this would help to stabilize a reef tank especially a bare bottom.
 
A fluidized bed filter is the equivalent of hooking up three extra canister filters to any reef, harmless but without the extra surface area, the rocks and sand w process all the ammonia. those filters are designed to be ultra efficient at removing ammonia from a system
 
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I would imagine fluidized sand filter would be capable of containing far more beneficial bacteria than those blocks.
 
I would imagine fluidized sand filter would be capable of containing far more beneficial bacteria than those blocks.

Perhaps, but the Marine Pure blocks are cheap, drop in the tank, no extra pumps or equipment needed, and have a TON of surface area for bacteria (23,000 sq. ft/block).
 
extra aerobic bac, competing for o2, beyond what rocks and sand provide is unideal

Their sole function is ammonia removal. Without them, the cycled tank removes ammonia fine. What are they adding to the system

agreed sand filters are massive bacterial systems.

they add cleaning requirement and competition for oxygen and something that dies when the power goes out briefly.

The intended use for moving sand filters, strictly aerobic workings, is to handle giant fish bioloads where free ammonia will result without their presence. If you hook up one and keep it clean, or four, or zero, the outcome to your reef tank params are the same. Those are oxygen consuming devices, like adding more fish but w no moving benefit. Their design is solely for ammonia, but we had that fine already

No bare bottom system is lacking surface area, they’re all zero ammonia after cycle. The rocks and corals in a bare bottom tank are plenty of surface area

Not harmful to hook up a bed filter, but it’s a tax not a help

dissolved oxygen will drop with each source of extra surface area added, unless those sources are plant systems/oxygen producers and you’re measuring during lights on.

Aerobic bacteria are a massive tax in any aquarium.
 
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Let’s rewind back to why we no longer use trickle filters and sand beds with high water flow through them in reef tanks. The end result of these types of aerobic bacteria are nitrates. While nitrates are harmless to fish, high nitrates can be very detrimental to corals and feed nuisance algae. Leaving a tank bare bottom and relying on just the live rock for a year is in my honest opinion a better option than trying to get biological benefits from sand. I add sand to my set ups more for aesthetic reasons than biological. Many including myself have seen deep sand beds covered in nuisance algae that doesn’t go away ever. Hence the term “nutrient sinks”. I keep my sand at 1” or less in all my set ups.
 
I would say with the amount of success people have with barebottom don't worry about sand. I just recently started my tank back up without a sand bed and couldn't be happier. Its almost crazy the amount of detritus that gathers and you don't see it going into a sand bed. If anything you can just add a brick (i have done this). And also my Turbos snails being clumsy and falling can flip themselves back over and do not die!

Just get one of those bio brick and put in the sump.
 
You’re really trying for this lol. There’s a reason the tech has barely been used in a decade+. There’s better ways.
 
You’re really trying for this lol. There’s a reason the tech has barely been used in a decade+. There’s better ways.

Yea really. Everybody that removed sands and went BB never miss a beat. Sand is best for tank startup.
 

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