basement sump plumbing

[Reefnoobz90]

I'm thinking of moving my sump to the basement however my wife veto'ed cutting a hold in our wood floors so my question is running the plumbing through the wall down into the basement.

does anyone do this? it's an outside wall if that makes a difference. the return is 3/4" and the drain is 1 inch (I think I have to double check). I'm visual so pictures would be awesome

 

[flsalty]

Depends on the construction of your house. Mine was concrete block and there was only about half an inch clearance on the outside walls. You'll also have to watch for electrical. So she's okay with you ripping out a section of wall but not drilling through the floor?

 

[Reef-junky]

Your still drilling into the floor so I don’t see the difference unless your talking out side the house I would rather drill the floor inside then try to seal a hole outside the house.

 

[Reefnoobz90]

I mean drilling through the hardwood flooring, if I cut out a piece of the wall and go through the 2x4s then patch the drywall if the tank ever needs to move or shut down then there aren't 2 holes in the flooring, just 2 patched drywall holes. I figure theres pluming in the walls coming from the basement so it must be common? Maybe a plumber is my best call

 

[JoshH]

I mean drilling through the hardwood flooring, if I cut out a piece of the wall and go through the 2x4s then patch the drywall if the tank ever needs to move or shut down then there aren't 2 holes in the flooring, just 2 patched drywall holes. I figure theres pluming in the walls coming from the basement so it must be common? Maybe a plumber is my best call

Plumbing in the interior walls is definitely common, plumbing on exterior walls is usually avoided at all costs if possible. In your case it probably won't be too bad cause your pipes are smaller than household drain plumbing but still not ideal... plus plumbing on an exterior wall can be a nightmare depending on how the wall sits on the foundation...

 

[Reef-junky]

I mean drilling through the hardwood flooring, if I cut out a piece of the wall and go through the 2x4s then patch the drywall if the tank ever needs to move or shut down then there aren't 2 holes in the flooring, just 2 patched drywall holes. I figure theres pluming in the walls coming from the basement so it must be common? Maybe a plumber is my best call

Pipes are only going to be in the bathroom or by the kitchen sink. You can patch a hole in the floor. In fact I had a chimney I took out and had to do the floor and ceiling. You end up with a hole in the floor no matter what you do. If the wall is load bearing I wouldn’t drill into the 2x4s. If it isn’t I guess that’s one way to cover up the holes. I also wouldn’t put those pipes anywhere near wires but I’m sure you know that. I wouldn’t want the pipes in the wall like that though. If you some how end up with a leak later on it’s going to be much more of a PIA to deal with. Plus potentially cause more damage because it will be longer before you know there’s a leak. Before you start cutting holes in the drywall I would turn your electrical off. There are times when I thought oh there nothing here only to find electrical wires on 2x4s that are away from outlets. Another thing is the floor joists make sure to go in between them. I replaced these walls and that is a patch on the floor.

 

[User]

Put the holes next to the wall and if you move the tank simply cut out a rectangle around the holes and install a fake ac register cover

 

[Robert Woodward]

good idea

 

[motortrendz]

Just started the same project. But I went though the floor bc I have carpet over a sub floor so I'm not worried about patching the holes in the future.

But you could just cut out the sheetrock with a sheetrock saw, go stud to stud so you have an easily patched area later if you decide to remove the pipes. drill your holes through the sill plate, and use low expanding foam to fill the gap between the pipes and the studs to keep the basement draft from coming up. And if it's an outside wall there will already be insulation in the wall. Tun the pipes on the inside and use 2 offset 45s to keep the pipes inside the sheetrock until you hit the sill plate. Then the patch area is very small.

 

[Jaebster]

I'm planning to do sonmething similar (plumbing through wall) with my current build. The sump will be in the tankstand but the UV and Chiller will be plumbed in the garage below on a closed loop to the sump. Saltwater mixing station is also in garage so to make water changes easier, will plumb fill/drain pipes through the wall. Might also hook up auto water change system through the profilux for small daily water changes through dosing lines adjacent to the main plumbing lines. Still in planning stages.

 

[FishTruck]

I did that on an interior wall for the same reasons. Cutting through all that wood was difficult (2 x 4 and sub floor) - it was too thick for hole saws, so I had to just drill holes over and over and then chop it out with a saws-all - it was brutal. There is probably a better way to cut through something that thick.

The exterior wall is more problematic. Load bearing, possibility of freezing come to mind.

Faced with this again... I'd just try and source the right boards to patch the floor first, once you have that figured out, just punch it through the floor.

You can tell your wife, that without a basement sump, you are going to spill upstairs eventually and ruin the whole floor (done that) - so you are really just everyone a favor - however you get the pipes through.

 

[tb582]

What are folks doing when terminating at the wall ? some fancy barbed flexible connector or just running pvc directly to the tank?

 

[tb582]

What are folks doing when terminating at the wall ? some fancy barbed flexible connector or just running pvc directly to the tank?

thinking something like a flange of sorts so it looks kinda nice coming out of the wall ... even though you'll rarely see it ?

another question is what do people do with the 2 inch or so gap between the tank plumbing and the wall ? would be nice to not be able to see that spot behind the tank from the side

 

[tb582]

this area here is where my question above was going ...