Basement Sump Pump Advice

[blstravler]

So after being out of the hobby for 10 years I purchase a new 425xl today. I am thinking about doing a basement sump - which I have no experience on. I want to run a Apex system to monitor/control the tank. I know they have the COR 20 - but I’ve got to go about 12 feet (max) and with loss I’m thinking it won’t be powerful enough a or maybe not? So I need a few recommendations - I would rather a submersible pump and something I can control fully via the Apex. Anyone have any good ideas running a similar set up?

 

[GoVols]

@Flippers4pups or @Fudsey

Can you guys give some advise?

Thanks, Freddie

 

[Flippers4pups]

How many feet of head are you looking at?

Pressure rated pumps are best. Iwaki, Blueline, Panworld......etc.

 

[joseserrano]

If you have the $$$ abyzz. Tunze also makes a large submersible

 

[Hemmdog]

If you have the $$$ abyzz. Tunze also makes a large submersible

+1, abyzz are “the best”

 

[blstravler]

How many feet of head are you looking at?

Pressure rated pumps are best. Iwaki, Blueline, Panworld......etc.

Just went and measured. If sump is 3 feet off the ground it’s 5 feet up through the floor and about another 4.5 to top of tank so figure 10ft total from pump to tank.

 

[GoVols]

Why would you spend that much money (on an Abyzz) for a basement pump???

My last Iwaki lasted over twenty years.

 

[joseserrano]

Why would you spend that much money (on an Abyzz) for a basement pump???

My last Iwaki lasted over twenty years.

Why would you spend that much money (on an Abyzz) for a basement pump???

My last Iwaki lasted over twenty years.

Iwaki’s are great pumps, but comparing the 2 is no where near apples to apples

 

[GoVols]

Iwaki’s are great pumps, but comparing the 2 is no where near apples to apples

He's doing a basement setup.
I'm not spending that kind of money unless it was in my den...

 

[Dragon52]

Any elbows & connections need to be in the calculation for head pressure also. Here's a calculator I found useful.

https://pentairaes.com/pump-calculator

 

[blstravler]

Any elbows & connections need to be in the calculation for head pressure also. Here's a calculator I found useful.

https://pentairaes.com/pump-calculator

I shouldn’t need to have any - could do flex PVC all the way down - should have enough flex to get out of the stand and straight down to the pump.

 

[Fudsey]

I went with the large Eflux pump as it has more head pressure than the Vectra and I wanted internal. The Abyzz would be a great choice but the are very pricey.

 

[JDnKY]

I use a Reef Octopus Varios 8 in my basement sump for my 180. Works great and is controllable with an Apex.

 

[Saveafish]

Shame on me shame shame. I'll hold my head down in shame and say this.
I run a jebao 18000. 4000gph and holds 30' head.

 

[Dragon52]

I shouldn’t need to have any - could do flex PVC all the way down - should have enough flex to get out of the stand and straight down to the pump.

That's good, just thought I would add that in since I didn't know it myself until someone let me know about it.

 

[blstravler]

I went with the large Eflux pump as it has more head pressure than the Vectra and I wanted internal. The Abyzz would be a great choice but the are very pricey.

Thanks - found the eFlux 6011 and looks like it can push the distance no problem. How long have you had yours - any issues?

 

[blstravler]

I use a Reef Octopus Varios 8 in my basement sump for my 180. Works great and is controllable with an Apex.

This one?

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/varios-8-controllable-dc-pump-2700-gph-reef-octopus.html

 

[JDnKY]

This one?

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/varios-8-controllable-dc-pump-2700-gph-reef-octopus.html

Yes, that’s the one I use.

 

[Fudsey]

Thanks - found the eFlux 6011 and looks like it can push the distance no problem. How long have you had yours - any issues?

Been running it since September 2017 and I got it when it was on sale for 229. I don't have to run it at full speed either, which I like. I got a second one used locally for 100 so I have a backup when I want to clean it. The Varios 8 wasn't out then and it doesn't push as much at 10 feet of HP but the Eflux is not Apex controllable as far as I know. But, I never turn it off unless I am doing a water change anyways.

 

[blstravler]

Shame on me shame shame. I'll hold my head down in shame and say this.
I run a jebao 18000. 4000gph and holds 30' head.

Just found them - https://m.fish-street.com/jebao_dcp_sine_wave_water_return_pump

Thanks! How long have you had it running. Why holding your head down in shame if it’s a good pump or is it not the ‘popular’ pump...