Battlecorals Snipes Blue Discussion Thread

CNDReef · Sep 17, 2018

Alk also precipitates more at higher levels. So just adding a 1 time dose to bump it from 7-9 could result in some swings.

miPapareef · Sep 17, 2018

justingraham said:
What size tank and how much are you dosing a day?

75 gallon DT and I dose 10.3 ml per day. But I put the 1 liter Core7 into 1 gallon jug and dilute with RODI. This gives me more control over the dosage, and I actually dose 39.1 ml per day of my diluted Core7 solution.

justingraham · Sep 17, 2018

miPapareef said:
75 gallon DT and I dose 10.3 ml per day. But I put the 1 liter Core7 into 1 gallon jug and dilute with RODI. This gives me more control over the dosage, and I actually dose 39.1 ml per day of my diluted Core7 solution.

Interesting why add more volume to hold? Main reason I didn’t switch to ati

It’s very easy for fifty gallons of water for every ml of triton you dose is .1 dkh I’m at 32ml a day so my tank consumes 1.6 dkh a day (100 gallon tank)

justingraham · Sep 17, 2018

Toomanyfish said:
Alk also precipitates more at higher levels. So just adding a 1 time dose to bump it from 7-9 could result in some swings.

I would bump it up .1 dkh a day and get there in 15 days

Are you saying at keeping my tank at 9 dkh it would percipitate more?

CNDReef · Sep 17, 2018

justingraham said:
I would bump it up .1 dkh a day and get there in 15 days

Are you saying at keeping my tank at 9 dkh it would percipitate more?

Correct, so assuming you add a set value of alk to get to 9 in a certain amount of time , it might not be enough. You might get there over time but your alk uptake might not just be from corals. Your pumps and heaters might get some and if ph is high enough could also help percipitate some out of the water column. You’ll get there ,just not as cut n dry.

justingraham · Sep 17, 2018

@Battlecorals what is your thoughts on the brs video about higher alk better growth? You keep it at 8 dkh correct?

CNDReef · Sep 17, 2018

Didn’t BRS have it at 12 dkh?

justingraham · Sep 17, 2018

Toomanyfish said:
Didn’t BRS have it at 12 dkh?

Shoot could be don’t know

CNDReef · Sep 17, 2018

Just made me watch it again lol
they were set to 12 dkh

justingraham · Sep 17, 2018

Toomanyfish said:
Just made me watch it again lol
they were set to 12 dkh

O yea brs has it at 12 I was wondering what battlecorals has it at

I’m shooting for 9.5 dkh right in the middle

HolisticBear · Sep 17, 2018

Toomanyfish said:
Didn’t BRS have it at 12 dkh?

I'm curious if the pH was the same in both tanks. They did that video last year about increased pH greatly increasing growth that kicked off the whole CO2 scrubber craze.

We've all known higher alk increases growth, but so does lower nutrients. You can't do both, and the trend has been towards NSW.

Interesting, because Triton really pushed people towarrds the 7 range. Prior to that, people typically ran a bit higher.

Will be interesting to follow over the next year.

Sushitheshiba · Sep 17, 2018

justingraham said:
O yea brs has it at 12 I was wondering what battlecorals has it at

Battlecorals site is saying 8-9 in all tanks.

Sushitheshiba · Sep 17, 2018

Does anyone here mind sharing what PAR you have your frag under? Idk if I’m under/over lighting it. Its encrusted a bit though...

Edit: just give a range or something lol thanks

miPapareef · Sep 17, 2018

Sushitheshiba said:
Does anyone here mind sharing what PAR you have your frag under? Idk if I’m under/over lighting it. Its encrusted a bit though...

Edit: just give a range or something lol thanks

I have a kessil ap700 and the aquatic life T5 fixture.

My frag is currently on the frag rack getting a peak of 350 to 375 par for 4.5 hours. LEDs ramp from 0 to 200 par before the T5s turn on for the peak time. Total light time is 12 hours.
Looks like this but this picture is from a different spot where the leds only reach 100 before the T5s turn on, so I drew a blue line of what the par at the frag looks like.

Alk 7.3
NO3 15
PO4 0.06
Flow is cranking 2X Tunze 6055 and 2X gyre FX230 plus a Varios 8 at 60% for return pump.

justingraham · Sep 17, 2018

387 for 8 hours a day if u look back in the thread a bunch of us posted what we did

MTBake · Sep 17, 2018

Don't have a par meter. Really wish I did though.

MTBake · Sep 17, 2018

What's the conversion factor for lux to par for MH? I have a lux meter from Amazon and get 83,000 lux in the middle of the reflector at the water surface. I get 30,000 at the far corners of the reflector at the water surface.

KJoFan · Sep 17, 2018

MTBake said:
What's the conversion factor for lux to par for MH? I have a lux meter from Amazon and get 83,000 lux in the middle of the reflector at the water surface. I get 30,000 at the far corners of the reflector at the water surface.

I believe if you've got a warmer MH bulb you divide your lux readings by 40. If you've got a bluer bulb divide by 50. Which gives you...insane par.

MTBake · Sep 17, 2018

It's a 250 watt 14k Phoenix in a Lumenarc Mini Stealth reflector. I got like 2100 par at the surface of the water when I did the conversion, lol. My best guess is the contest frag is getting 500-600 par. I'm going keep an eye out for a used Apogee.

KJoFan · Sep 17, 2018

MTBake said:
It's a 250 watt 14k Phoenix in a Lumenarc Mini Stealth reflector. I got like 2100 par at the surface of the water when I did the conversion, lol. My best guess is the contest frag is getting 500-600 par. I'm going keep an eye out for a used Apogee.

That’s a ton of par. I took some readings with a par meter known not to be great for leds, which I have and got 350+ par in most locations on the rock and 200+ on the sand and my sps were paling big time.

I turned back my lights by about 30-40% and color started up. Everyone’s tank is different though.